Originally posted by dadudemon
I have (or had?) similar memes about Courtney Love and Charlie Sheen.Sorry, man, drug abuse is drug abuse. If you do something stupid, expect to get made fun of.
I make fun of myself for divorcing. World needs less snowflakes.
Actually good point, do recall certain people here mocking and having a laugh at Charlie Sheen's expense when he was down the drug hole.
Originally posted by Silent Masterplease do go on
Ah, yes. the favorite tactic of people that know I'm right.
Originally posted by Raptor22
please do go on
😂 how embarrassing
Originally posted by Silent Master
What are the odds that he's leaving out context?
He's clarified over and over again that his criticisms are ideological criticisms rather than an attack on people for being transgender.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It's from the Cathy Newman interview. Adam's framing it as an attack on transgender people, whereas Peterson specifically clarified that he wasn't referring to anyone who is transgender, but a particular sort of political activist pushing the intersectional agenda.He's clarified over and over again that his criticisms are ideological criticisms rather than an attack on people for being transgender.
IOW, context was left out.
I'm shocked.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It's from the Cathy Newman interview. Adam's framing it as an attack on transgender people, whereas Peterson specifically clarified that he wasn't referring to anyone who is transgender, but a particular sort of political activist pushing the intersectional agenda.He's clarified over and over again that his criticisms are ideological criticisms rather than an attack on people for being transgender.
By all means, how is Peterson saying that people advocating that a group to which they belong be included in a charter protecting human rights is ideologically no different than a mass-murdering dictator not an attack on people?
Adam_PoE: You are saying someone who's trying to live like Christ, who may well have struggled with that, who had quite a tough time over the years, you're comparing them with, you know, Chairman Mao, who saw the deaths of millions of people.
Peterson: No, just the activists.
Adam_PoE: Well, even the Christian activists, you know, they're people too. They have a right to try to live according to their consciences.
Peterson: Yeah, but they don't have the right to impose their beliefs on the whole community.
Adam_PoE: Under Mao millions of people die. I mean, there's no comparison between Mao and a Christian activist, is there?
Peterson: Why not?
Adam_PoE: Because Christian activists aren't killing millions of people.
Peterson: The philosophy that's guiding their utterances is the same philosophy.
Adam_PoE: The consequences are not the same.
Peterson: Not yet.
Adam_PoE: So you're saying that Christian activists could lead to the deaths of millions of people?
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Tell me, dmb, does this seem like an ideological criticism to you or an attack?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
By all means, how is Peterson saying that people advocating that a group to which they belong be included in a charter protecting human rights is ideologically no different than a mass-murdering dictator not an attack on people?
I don't advocate that Mormons are not allowed to be made fun of. And I don't advocate Mormons have to be referred to by their special titles and names (we have them).
People born to Mormon parents are more likely to grow up being Mormon than a kid is to be transgender when born to a transgender parent. Meaning, it is harder to get away from being a Mormon than it is being transgender. So making fun of Mormons should be worse than Transgenders, right?
But I digress: suicide among Mormons is far less than transgenders and I want less death in the world.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Adam_PoE: You are saying someone who's trying to live like Christ, who may well have struggled with that, who had quite a tough time over the years, you're comparing them with, you know, Chairman Mao, who saw the deaths of millions of people.Peterson: No, just the activists.
Adam_PoE: Well, even the Christian activists, you know, they're people too. They have a right to try to live according to their consciences.
Peterson: Yeah, but they don't have the right to impose their beliefs on the whole community.
Adam_PoE: Under Mao millions of people die. I mean, there's no comparison between Mao and a Christian activist, is there?
Peterson: Why not?
Adam_PoE: Because Christian activists aren't killing millions of people.
Peterson: The philosophy that's guiding their utterances is the same philosophy.
Adam_PoE: The consequences are not the same.
Peterson: Not yet.
Adam_PoE: So you're saying that Christian activists could lead to the deaths of millions of people?
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Tell me, dmb, does this seem like an ideological criticism to you or an attack?
Seems like an ideological criticism to me. After all, he was specific to the activists and specific to the methods/result of their activism. There is nothing about transgenderism that advocates any of the above. How is this an attack on transgenderism exactly? Nothing about being transgender directly means that you are an activist after all. Pls explain.
Granted he committed a very clear and blatant slippery slope fallacy (at least from where I’m seeing it). Just because the one ideology has similarities to another doesn’t make them the same. I’m surprised the interviewer didn’t jump on that (if this was the CN interview, ir seemed like she was aching to gotcha him the whole time after all). /shrug
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually good point, do recall certain people here mocking and having a laugh at Charlie Sheen's expense when he was down the drug hole.
Hey if JP goes on a crazed rant about being a warlock for the vatican I give you permission to laugh. Come on, that's a crazy thing to say and just the suggestion the vatican has warlocks makes me giggle.
It's not like Sheen just went "yeah, my wife is dying and I turned to drugs and got hooked and now I'm gonna seek help" and people went "lolololol!".
Originally posted by Surturwhen I lived in KSA we called the school for Islamic studies that produced the religious Police Hogwarts.
Hey if JP goes on a crazed rant about being a warlock for the vatican I give you permission to laugh. Come on, that's a crazy thing to say and just the suggestion the vatican has warlocks makes me giggle.It's not like Sheen just went "yeah, my wife is dying and I turned to drugs and got hooked and now I'm gonna seek help" and people went "lolololol!".