Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
my point is that in this scan you can't SEE which particular heroes got thrown off him, we see like 4-6, it's vague. There's zero proof that Superman was one of those, YOU can believe what you want, we all have different interpreations simple as that.
Prime throws off Superman, M'onel and Andromeda at once while overpowering two cosmic boys trying to restrain him. And just one cosmic boy can restrain Orion casually.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What about this one?Prime throws off Superman, M'onel and Andromeda at once while overpowering two cosmic boys trying to restrain him. And just one cosmic boy can restrain Orion casually.
Impressive Abhi, but I think that all of these guys are typically written below the likes of Tyrant and Superboy Prime. My first thoughts was that Tyrant and Galactus level characters were a solid tier above Prime, but you've convinced me that they're about dead even at the Mid Cosmic tier. You can pick low showings, while as you've seen the Marvel side can do the same.
I love all this talk about throwing around heralds and other such nonsense. You have a Fed Galactus telling "DP" Tyrant he didn't want a fight because of the massive collateral damage the universe would sustain.
A skyfather+ level being didn't want to fight "DP" Tyrant and wanted to postpone any future conflict till HE had the advantage. Let that sink in.
Originally posted by Stoic
Impressive Abhi, but I think that all of these guys are typically written below the likes of Tyrant and Superboy Prime. My first thoughts was that Tyrant and Galactus level characters were a solid tier above Prime, but you've convinced me that they're about dead even at the Mid Cosmic tier. You can pick low showings, while as you've seen the Marvel side can do the same.
It's not impressive if you read the context dude
Originally posted by abhilegend
What about this one?Prime throws off Superman, M'onel and Andromeda at once while overpowering two cosmic boys trying to restrain him. And just one cosmic boy can restrain Orion casually.
Another misinterpretation of the feat
the objective was to tear the armor off which they succeed at. SBP was amped still until shortly after. Probably burn through most of the power forcing them off of him
It states IT BLATANTLY in your own scan 😂
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yeah because mods just ban you for disagreeing or debating with them...rightWhat a pitiful excuse
Hes been banned before and it seems like it was not debatable after Galan comment. Read what he said. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about or like you are always right because you're not.
Originally posted by carver9No. It was simply me pointing out the ridiculousness in the non-point he was trying to make. Thought I made that clear.
Hes been banned before and it seems like it was not debatable after Galan comment. Read what he said. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about or like you are always right because you're not.
I don't at all have a problem with a civilized, rational discussion with anyone here. I'm not always in 'mod mode', and certainly wouldn't ban someone just for disagreeing with me, ffs.
...But I'm still going to call out stupidity when I see it.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Orion varies time to time, when he's fighting against Darkseid, he's arguably a high herald. Scaling certain characters doesn't work if they weren't written as powerful in the arcHe recently got stomped by a Minotaur in Wonder Woman series.
Orion in every other series has been a beast. Even in Azarello's wonder woman run, he was still impressive.
Originally posted by zopzop
Thank you.Look how Thanos describes their first fight and keep in mind this is from the guy that wielded the IG (this takes place after the IG saga) :
"Has the universe witnessed such a conflict? The scope? The power? I think not."In case you think Thanos was exaggerating, look at what Galactus says about fighting "DP" Tyrant :
"Any other outcome is far too dangerous. Full war between us could bring destruction as has never been seen. Even in the unthinkable event you emerged victorious you would rule over rubble.""DP" Tyrant my azz!
The fact Thanos can say anything at all is proof Tyrant isn't "that" much stronger.
I don't know why Big G was afraid to fight him, we've seen what happens when a weakened Galactua fought Thanos. It was much less of a fight.
Originally posted by zopzopwell you can say the same thing about the Monarch fight and their fight ended up destroying a universe. And monarch was a beast at that point.
I love all this talk about throwing around heralds and other such nonsense. You have a Fed Galactus telling "DP" Tyrant he didn't want a fight because of the massive collateral damage the universe would sustain.A skyfather+ level being didn't want to fight "DP" Tyrant and wanted to postpone any future conflict till HE had the advantage. Let that sink in.
Originally posted by Diesldude
well you can say the same thing about the Monarch fight and their fight ended up destroying a universe. And monarch was a beast at that point.
Exactly.
Monarch destroyed a universe, and Superboy Prime survived it, after losing most of his guardian amp.
Monarch or Superman Prime would literally one shot Thanos.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Alberto simply goes for the low-balling, therefore his arguments are, imo, simply not worth addressing.More so considering he can't understand the context he accuses others of not grasping.
You don't consider this lowballing?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that why in the same arc Tyrant died by a blast that quivered some planets and Galactus had to flee from it?
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
How is that low-balling? Lol
So him using that attack as only planetary (when we know collateral damage is not a source for durability) isnt a low showing? So if I said Prime got knocked out by punches that didnt even level the room they were fighting in, that wouldn't be lowballing?
Originally posted by cdtm
The fact Thanos can say anything at all is proof Tyrant isn't "that" much stronger.I don't know why Big G was afraid to fight him, we've seen what happens when a weakened Galactua fought Thanos. It was much less of a fight.
I'm not sure if you're arware of this, but Thanos was augmented/amped when he fought Tyrant.
Originally posted by carver9When has prime ever been knocked by a punch? If you want tonise these kind of examples you should use someone that has actually been knocked out like for example the hulk. You’ll find hundreds of such examples to make your case. And please Don’t be offended by this, I’m just trying to help you become a better debater. 👆
So him using that attack as only planetary (when we know collateral damage is not a source for durability) isnt a low showing? So if I said Prime got knocked out by punches that didnt even level the room they were fighting in, that wouldn't be lowballing?
