Will Joker cause an Incel bloodbath? The US Army think so.

Started by Surtur10 pages

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Giving a movie bad reviews and freaking out about it before seeing it because you believe it has themes you disagree with.

Does that apply to both those movies?

Yes.

You think one is dumb and the other isn't (because you agree with one and not the other). I think they're both dumb.

Specifically regarding Joker, it's neither about incels or antifa. It can be misconstrued as being about incels due to Arthur's fantasies Vs the reality about his neighbour. But it's not just women he's unable to connect with. Everyone rejects him. Thinking it's about antifa because of the way the Joker's supporters dress and act is equally retarded because they're in it for all of 5 minutes so taking this as the major theme is ridiculously dumb. Even if they were in it more they are more akin to anarchists and G7 protesters than antifa.

But that's what happens when you project.

You're conflating what some people did with what I did. I thought Captain Marvel would be dog shit based on trailers, but I didn't give bad reviews like those who flooded Rotten Tomatoes with bad reviews before it came out. And I think lots of people form opinions based on trailers.

And while I certainly talked about it I personally was not in some panic over anything Brie Larson said or anything in the movie. I'm sure if you looked you could find someone who legit was upset.

I will also note I did in fact not double down on my opinion of the movie after I saw it. I gave it a 5 out of 10, said it had some cringe, but that it wasn't as bad as I'd thought it would be...and even said I felt it deserved a chance to continue telling the story.

So we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Giving a movie bad reviews and freaking out about it before seeing it because you believe it has themes you disagree with.

Does that apply to both those movies?

Yes.

You think one is dumb and the other isn't (because you agree with one and not the other). I think they're both dumb.

Specifically regarding Joker, it's neither about incels or antifa. It can be misconstrued as being about incels due to Arthur's fantasies Vs the reality about his neighbour. But it's not just women he's unable to connect with. Everyone rejects him. Thinking it's about antifa because of the way the Joker's supporters dress and act is equally retarded because they're in it for all of 5 minutes so taking this as the major theme is ridiculously dumb. Even if they were in it more they are more akin to anarchists and G7 protesters than antifa.

But that's what happens when you project.

Bingo

Will also point out if this film is supposed to be "Far Left" propaganda and Joker's followers are supposed to represent "Antifa" as some claim, then the movie failed miserably to push that claimed agenda, as neither the Joker nor his followers are the heroes of the film.

I just hope the butthurt over what incels might have done and the sheer hysteria surrounding this movie do not harm its oscar chances. This doesn't mean I'm saying it should be nominated, rather just that the only factors they should take into account are the quality of the film and its performances. The fact someone might be offended over a best picture or best actor nomination/win should not factor into the equation.

Originally posted by Surtur
You're conflating what some people did with what I did.

That's your speciality.

If I had to bet I'd say it will get a best picture nom and a best actor nom, but neither will win. Though the chances of a victory for best actor would be higher than that of best picture.

Best cinematography likely as well

Do you think it was wrong to use a Gary Glitter song?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Are you unable to separate an actor from a character?

If I can, then the actor did a poor job. haha!

Suck it.

Thankfully, both Brie and her character did cringey SJW b.s. so I didn't have to separate anything. 🙂

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The fact that you would say that shows you're on the defensive.

There is no difference. Your trying to point them out tells me you're guilty of doing exactly what I said, namely projecting your own politics onto a movie and ruining it for yourself before even seeing it, then the movie turning out not to have all the political leanings you accused it of, meaning you ruined your enjoyment of a movie for nothing. That's exactly the same thing that's happening with Joker. Only this time from all angles.

It's dumb. People that do it are idiots, regardless of what "side" they are on.

You've done it and now you're trying to justify it by saying it's not the same. But it is the same.

Hey, I admitted that by Sutur's and Robtard's combined logic, I'm a hypocrite. And I didn't deny it.

👆

And I am not sorry.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
According to Neme, DDM or Bash. I can't honestly remember who of the three, most porn is already about cucks. This was ages ago and it was a great post, funny as ****. Wish I had Robs memory.

Wasn't me. Probably PVS. Seems like something he'd say.

Edit - But I agree with it. Watching some dude bang some chick seems very cucky to me. Weird.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo

Will also point out if this film is supposed to be "Far Left" propaganda and Joker's followers are supposed to represent "Antifa" as some claim, then the movie failed miserably to push that claimed agenda, as neither the Joker nor his followers are the heroes of the film.

They are much closer to "Occupy Wall Street" protesters than Antifa. However, there is a very large overlap between OWS and Antifa.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, I admitted that by Sutur's and Robtard's combined logic,

Stop trolling me

Originally posted by Robtard
Stop trolling me

Suck it.

Check whose post I responded to.

It was yours.

🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
If I can, then the actor did a poor job. haha!

Suck it.

Thankfully, both Brie and her character did cringey SJW b.s. so I didn't have to separate anything. 🙂

And it is *still* hilarious they got so mad over her being told to smile they put a line in the movie about it lol. It was yet another one of those times where the left thinks they are trolling when all they've done is allow themselves to be baited.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
According to Neme, DDM or Bash. I can't honestly remember who of the three, most porn is already about cucks. This was ages ago and it was a great post, funny as ****. Wish I had Robs memory.

Maybe this thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=642471&pagenumber=5

Originally posted by Surtur
Do you think it was wrong to use a Gary Glitter song?

Yes. Not a sensible decision, that one. Might be a case of them simply not knowing much about him as I'm not sure his case is well known outside the UK.

I didn't know at the time I watched the film as I'm not very familiar with Glitter's work, nor do I really care now, as I can separate the artist from the monster. But with all the music out there to choose from, why a song from a convicted pedo serving time. Do wonder if it was deliberate or not.

I believe he is out of jail after having served 16 years, but yeah I doubt they were aware.

"On 27 February 2015, he was sentenced to a total of 16 years in prison." -snip

Unless he gets out early, he'll be in jail until 2031.

My bad thought it said he got out in 2015 👆

He's 75 so he's gonna die in prison more than likely.

Yeah Glitter's been in prison a couple of times now, (almost said 'been inside' but thankfully stopped myself) he got released after his original conviction and went to live in Phnom Penh in Cambodia which at the time was the supposed paedo capital of the world, he even managed to get into trouble there after inviting young girls on his boat. Glad he'll most likely die in prison, can only hope that he spends his last few years as somebodies cock-stash.