Originally posted by Stoic
But Galactus was in telepathic battle with Odin in that scene, wasn't he? If so, wouldn't that be considered a sneak attack? Anyway, he may not tank it, but it's not going to put his existence in peril.
Shouldn't be, because bracing doesn't exactly increase durability (telling me to brace for Tyson doesn't mean I can suddenly take them) and secondly, his armour was shattered there (which shouldn't be affected by sneak attacks).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shouldn't be, because bracing doesn't exactly increase durability (telling me to brace for Tyson doesn't mean I can suddenly take them) and secondly, his armour was shattered there (which shouldn't be affected by sneak attacks).
How did Harry Houdini die? Or, actually what was the cause of his demise? Bracing for an impact increases durability DS.
Originally posted by Stoic
How did Harry Houdini die? Or, actually what was the cause of his demise? Bracing for an impact increases durability DS.
To a point, yes. But it doesn't make you invulnerable...I can brace for Tyson as much as I want, doesn't mean I'm taking any of his love taps.
And then there is the point that G's armour shattered. Which....isn't linked to bracing.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX👆
i think if thor and beta ray bill can breach his armor, hes not just going to "tank" an imp.
I think some people are confused about what "tanking" an attack actually means. It doesn't simply mean that one can survive the attack -- it means they are completely unscathed/unmoved/unaffected by the attack.
For example, Sentry "tanked" Hulk throwing a train at him:
Harald Jaekelsson "tanked" a Mjolnir strike:
etc. etc. etc.
That said, Zum did not "tank" an IMP:
Just like Galactus did not "tank" a strike from BRB:
Said attacks may not have affected/injured them permanently, but they were still affected nonetheless. Ergo the attacks were not "tanked".
Originally posted by abhilegend
At an IMP level? I don't think so.
Hahaha
Top 5 dumbest things you've said.
I REALLY want you to disagree with me on this because it's clear this post had very limited thought behind it and was all instinct.
Wally's IMP has knocked out Zum, Zoom, and been compared to striking with the mass of a white-dwarf (Hypothetically and casually).
On a side note, can't any object/being that can reach FTL but control it's velocity, technically achieve the IMP. Superman did it to bust a moon.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Jay Garrick at lightspeed ripped apart space time and oneshotted King of Tears (Spectre level being).
1) By definition, the IMP is when an object approaches light-speed. That wasn't an IMP.
2) Wtf bro: https://i.imgur.com/PCmERS5.jpg
You omitted so much context there, it's ridiculous. Scans for those interested in the entire issue:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JSA-1999/Issue-20?id=44147&readType=1
I highly recommend the JSA run, it's a great read. That's it for my involvement in this thread.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
HahahaTop 5 dumbest things you've said.
ermm
That would be your last 5 things you said.
I REALLY want you to disagree with me on this because it's clear this post had very limited thought behind it and was all instinct.
Wally's IMP has knocked out Zum, Zoom, and been compared to striking with the mass of a white-dwarf (Hypothetically and casually).
On a side note, can't any object/being that can reach FTL but control it's velocity, technically achieve the IMP. Superman did it to bust a moon.
Bill made a scratch on Galactus (OMG). Jay Garrick at lightspeed punched KOT through space and time.
And that IMP from Superman was a thousand degrees more powerful than entire Justice League and Shadow Cabinet combined. Thor or Bill can just dream about so much power.
Not even Zatanna had the power to do anything to it and entire JLA+Syndicate were weaker by a thousand orders to do anything about it.
Not to mention, characters like Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash and Icon were struggling with his human sized shadows.
What it shows that Superman is a thousand orders more powerful than the likes of Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Icon, Firestorm, Flash and Zatanna put together while delivering an IMP.
Its not always about collateral damage.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]1) By definition, the IMP is when an object approaches light-speed. That wasn't an IMP.
2) Wtf bro: https://i.imgur.com/PCmERS5.jpgYou omitted so much context there, it's ridiculous. Scans for those interested in the entire issue:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JSA-1999/Issue-20?id=44147&readType=1
Jay was reaching lightspeed there, this is why you're always a dumbass. At least read before posting.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Jay was reaching lightspeed there, this is why you're always a dumbass. At least read before posting.
No, he specifically HIT lightspeed before he even connected with the King of Tears. He hit him at speeds faster than the speed of light:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rJg16KsqbgQ/VxWJlYginHI/AAAAAAAAILA/NBkycmTJfRgTSDDVatUA-Wpg0bcxTjwOwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO011.jpg
That wasn't an IMP. That was some unique, Speed Force related super attack.
Not to mention you left out a shit load of context, such as Black Adam amping Jay, Sorrow being paralyzed by his own power being reflected, it being a sucker attack, and that Jay struck Sorrow's body, disrupting the linkage of the KoT:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LhCGD3AJE0Y/VxWJlFolWjI/AAAAAAAAILA/1dok-1-mm3UoAbO8GlHS24WGFs348qthwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg
Can you please stop trolling and/or lying? It makes it difficult to have a good faith conversation.
Originally posted by abhilegend
ermmThat would be your last 5 things you said.
Bill made a scratch on Galactus (OMG). Jay Garrick at lightspeed punched KOT through space and time.
Again, not an IMP, Garrick was amped by the speed of Heru, and there was other context.
The IMP has: Knocked out Zum, Gorilla Grodd, RF and tossed around Wonder Woman.
It has not accomplished anything close to the best of someone like Thor's striking with Mjolnir. It wouldn't even scratch Galactus when portrayed as a Universal force as under Gillen's pen.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And that IMP from Superman was a thousand degrees more powerful than entire Justice League and Shadow Cabinet combined. Thor or Bill can just dream about so much power.Not even Zatanna had the power to do anything to it and entire JLA+Syndicate were weaker by a thousand orders to do anything about it.
Not to mention, characters like Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Flash and Icon were struggling with his human sized shadows.
What it shows that Superman is a thousand orders more powerful than the likes of Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Icon, Firestorm, Flash and Zatanna put together while delivering an IMP.
Its not always about collateral damage.
What does this have to do with anything I said? I asked if other beings can achieve the IMP such as the Surfer, Gladiator etc. It's based on the premise that a being can reach like 99% of light-speed, and maintain the velocity.
Originally posted by MrMind
😂 yeah no
The IMP's punch greatest claim to fame is in the statements, not even the feats:
1) Flash said it's like hitting RF with the mass of a white dwarf Star.
2) Wonder Woman said it hurts more than being punched than Superman.
I'd argue both of those are hyperbolic. If you want to take them at face value, I wouldn't be opposed but it'd be silly. Esp since Superman himself can use an IMP technically.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, he specifically HIT lightspeed before he even connected with the King of Tears. He hit him at speeds faster than the speed of light:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rJg16KsqbgQ/VxWJlYginHI/AAAAAAAAILA/NBkycmTJfRgTSDDVatUA-Wpg0bcxTjwOwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO011.jpg
He was approaching superluminal speed, ergo still at lightspeed. He didn't go FTL.
That wasn't an IMP. That was some unique, Speed Force related super attack.
It wasn't. Jay travelled to present in the same way. [quote l]
Not to mention you left out a shit load of context, such as Black Adam amping Jay, Sorrow being paralyzed by his own power being reflected, it being a sucker attack, and that Jay struck Sorrow's body, disrupting the linkage of the KoT:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LhCGD3AJE0Y/VxWJlFolWjI/AAAAAAAAILA/1dok-1-mm3UoAbO8GlHS24WGFs348qthwCCo/s1600-Ic42/RCO008.jpg[/QUOTE]
Lolwut? How's Adam amping Jay matter here?
And you're just making shit up as context when it was presented as clear cut. These things didn't matter as much as you think.
Can you please stop trolling and/or lying? It makes it difficult to have a good faith conversation.
Can you stop being a dumbass?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Again, not an IMP, Garrick was amped by the speed of Heru, and there was other context.
Speed of heru which only moved him to lightspeed.
The IMP has: Knocked out Zum, Gorilla Grodd, RF and tossed around Wonder Woman.
Flash never used an IMP on Grodd.
It has not accomplished anything close to the best of someone like Thor's striking with Mjolnir. It wouldn't even scratch Galactus when portrayed as a Universal force as under Gillen's pen.
Gillen? It was Oeming and he hardly portrayed Galactus as universal. Even Asteroth was killed by a black hole and was portrayed as Galactus peer.
Grant Morrison had 15 IMPs stagger even Nix Uotan.
Joe Kelly had Flash throwing a staff through Warloggog wielding Vera Black.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16818930/Untitled-Scanned-12.jpg.html
Galactus is chump change compared to that.
What does this have to do with anything I said? I asked if other beings can achieve the IMP such as the Surfer, Gladiator etc. It's based on the premise that a being can reach like 99% of light-speed, and maintain the velocity.
No, they can't. Otherwise a GL can reach that speed as well, but he was as helpless as everyone else.
