US diplomat killing people protected by the US
this is insanely outrageous, i'm outright mad as hell, i sincerely hope the UK will not let this scum go away with it
since Johnson never really cared for more hardcore politics, I hope they will kick the US embassy from the country if this scum isn't returned
I think it still could be true...she was driving the wrong way down the street and hit and killed someone. You wouldn't be charged with murder for that.
If she'd just went up and shot a girl I doubt she'd have been allowed to leave.
Not even gonna comment on the british person driving the wrong way, too easy.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/spy-wife-who-fled-britain-20532715
US spy wife who fled Britain after crash that killed teen has driving conviction
EXCLUSIVE: Anne Sacoolas,, who allegedly knocked Harry Dunn, 19, off his bike near RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire, was fined years previously in Virginia, US, for "failure to pay full time and attention"
Originally posted by Surtur
I had always thought diplomatic immunity didn't apply to serious crimes.
You would think so wouldn't you? I agree it wouldn't make much sense to be immune from prosecution after, for example, you murdered a half-dozen people in front of a hundred witnesses and was only deported as a punishment.
I know in the movies (at least the ones I've seen) diplomats are totally immune no matter the crime; it would be f***ed-up if it's the same IRL.
Re: US diplomat killing people protected by the US
Pretty sure diplomatic immunity does apply to virtually everything. Of course, in a horrific case, I'd expect many countries would waive immunity or the country where the crime was committed would detain the person regardless.
Originally posted by gold slorg
since Johnson never really cared for more hardcore politics, I hope they will kick the US embassy from the country if this scum isn't returned
You would have to be brain dead to think this is a good idea.
It does apply to everything, and for good reason.
Look up the Dikko affair. The US action, and consequences of said action, is exactly why we have diplomatic immunity.
In short, because if we don't respect their people, they won't respect our people. That guy you prosecuted for murder, now results in an execution of several of our engineers abroad for trumped up charges.
Originally posted by ares834it does apply to pretty much anything. Trust me on this.
Pretty sure diplomatic immunity does apply to virtually everything. Of course, in a horrific case, I'd expect many countries would waive immunity or the country where the crime was committed would detain the person regardless.You would have to be brain dead to think this is a good idea.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
it does apply to pretty much anything. Trust me on this.
Only as far as the host country accepts the risks of violating such, is worth more then adhering to it.
Logically speaking.
I'd imagine if a diplomat assassinated a high ranking politician, a country refusing to waive immunity would be treated as an act of war.
Originally posted by Surtur
I feel like whoever decided diplomatic immunity should allow one to get away with anything should be stabbed in the leg by someone with diplomatic immunity.
You've got to look at the big picture.
You're not protecting the diplomat. You're protecting OUR diplomats (And citizens abroad.)
Originally posted by gold slorgIt seems Johnson called Trump and requested Trump waive Sacoolas' political immunity, so the UK can handle the matter internally, Trump declined and said Sacoolas would be 'spoken to'.
same, it's outrageous, especially since the US courts could say she comes back to face what she's done, it's insane
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't wanna protect our diplomats from murder.
And we shouldn't.
But if we put someone elses diplomat through our system, without their permission first, then they'll take our perfectly innocent diplomats and citizens in their country, and run them through their system, often on made up charges.
We know this, because that's exactly what happened when Britian tried and convicted a diplomat of kidnapping. Several of their engineers were arrested on trumped up charges in retaliation, and sentenced to 20-30 years.