Originally posted by lawest9
Of course not, that would be an obvious and sensible conclusion, but it would be different between MM and Thor because they are much closer together in power, so Daredevil/Supes is a very silly analogy to make, and since we don't use crossovers here then why assume that MM can one shot Thor? that's all.
It's to illustrate a point. Whether someone is right or wrong, just because they can argue DC Character X can one-shot Marvel Person Y doesn't mean it's happened in a cross over. You assuming someone likely used a crossover is just as silly as my analogy.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Would need to re-read, too.As I was saying, I thought Mr Mind was talking about MMH's potential to KO Thor... as he's had some good strength feats in the new continuity, such as the Brainiac Ship - shared feat, but still.
Well, that and the canonicity of said crossovers is highly questionable...
This is all we see and we don't see Thor again for a while.
So, maybe he did KO him. (Shrugs)
As for canonicity, not factoring in so much change by now, some of the crossovers were definitely Canon at the time. It's not even questionable. But the mods won't allow them regardless unless it's the topic itself. Not sure though if this applies to like the Image/ALIENS stuff where that was a big event that changed things.
Originally posted by Delta1938Then what is the source of your statement "considering mmh can one shot thor" based off of?
It's to illustrate a point. Whether someone is right or wrong, just because they can argue DC Character X can one-shot Marvel Person Y doesn't mean it's happened in a cross over. You assuming someone likely used a crossover is just as silly as my analogy.
Originally posted by lawest9
Then what is the source of your statement "considering mmh can one shot thor" based off of?
.....you need it spelled out for you? That's why I brought up Superman one-shoting Daredevil. I can make this argument based on their respective appearances. I'm not saying the guy is right saying J'onn one-shots Thor, I said he can come to the conclusion on his own without crossovers. You should have asked him what makes him think that, not if it happened.
Originally posted by Delta1938I asked him that which I asked, my main focal points was 1. they claimed that which happened in a crossover cannot be used on this forum for getting one's point across, 2.using Superman one shotting Daredevil was a very poor analogy given the vast difference in power, while Thor and MM are much more evenly matched.
.....you need it spelled out for you? That's why I brought up Superman one-shoting Daredevil. I can make this argument based on their respective appearances. I'm not saying the guy is right saying J'onn one-shots Thor, I said he can come to the conclusion on his own without crossovers. You should have asked him what makes him think that, not if it happened.
That was earlier yesterday when we had this brief discussion and it's not at all that crucial to me to keep it going at this point.
Originally posted by lawest9
I asked him that which I asked, my main focal points was 1. they claimed that which happened in a crossover cannot be used on this forum for getting one's point across,
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Wait, what? Do you still think MrMind said J'onn one-shot Thor in a crossover? If so, this is what he said.
Originally posted by MrMind
considering mmh can oneshot odinson
"Can oneshot." Can, "has oneshot." While it can be taken as he's saying it's happened, that's an assumption. He never explicitly said MMH and I believe that's not what he meant based on what he said and other factors.
Originally posted by lawest9
2.using Superman one shotting Daredevil was a very poor analogy given the vast difference in power, while Thor and MM are much more evenly matched.That was earlier yesterday when we had this brief discussion and it's not at all that crucial to me to keep it going at this point.
I used such an extreme example to illustrate my point. That it's dumb to assume they're referring to something that happened in a crossover because they state their opinion. If you actually need me to explain this, I understand why you thought he HAD to be referencing a crossover.
Originally posted by Delta1938
This is all we see and we don't see Thor again for a while.So, maybe he did KO him. (Shrugs)
As for canonicity, not factoring in so much change by now, some of the crossovers were definitely Canon at the time. It's not even questionable. But the mods won't allow them regardless unless it's the topic itself. Not sure though if this applies to like the Image/ALIENS stuff where that was a big event that changed things.
Yeah, it could've been a flash-ko, there's no way to be sure.
Iirc, it was canon to DC, but Marvel side didn't acknowledge it? Lots of problems with intercompany crossovers.
Anyway, the rule is not getting changed any time soon...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, it could've been a flash-ko, there's no way to be sure.Iirc, it was canon to DC, but Marvel side didn't acknowledge it? Lots of problems with intercompany crossovers.
Anyway, the rule is not getting changed any time soon...
Marvel had a couple examples. I saw it directly referenced by Living Tribunal in X-MEN ADVENTURES or whatever it was(assuming LT is still the same LT) and one of the Handbooks chronicling alternate universe based stuff notes the Amalgam Universe as part of the Marvel multiverse.
But I don't see it as that much more problematic than regular comics, the issue is low showings are more noticeable due to the crossovers being shorter and higher profile, and people don't want their preferred characters losing.