Originally posted by NemeBro
The aura surrounding him is always there due to him being a beacon of hope within DC Earth that its people believe in.Are you suggesting Superman used his magic powers to absorb the psychic energy of millions of people?
The scan outright states it is creating (during that moment) a mass of psychic energy. OMFG
Originally posted by carver9Yes, it is currently around him in the story, as it always is. It is simply Phantom Stranger noticing that Superman is able to do the impossible because he is hope personified. He is a powerful being uniquely qualified to see that energy.
The scan outright states it is creating (during that moment) a mass of psychic energy. OMFG
Originally posted by carver9
He had Franklin Power inside of him. Franklin IS Universal level entity. Then we have this....https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44672923/apocalypse-cable_o7w2lk.jpg.html
Green Lanterns siphon from the combined willpower of the universe also, as do all the other types of lanterns for their respective traits.
Which of his feats are universal though?
Knock over a couple buildings? Build a Castle? Beat up Hulk and Juggy? Kill a few X Men?
He clearly has an extremely bad case of CIS, because he never displayed anything even remotely in the realm of what Franklin alone could do.
I used to love this story when I was young, but its just so bad.
Originally posted by Juntai
Yes, it is currently around him in the story, as it always is. It is simply Phantom Stranger noticing that Superman is able to do the impossible because he is hope personified. He is a powerful being uniquely qualified to see that energy.
You sure it's always around him because the scan said "creating". That's not a word used for something that is always there. Example, I'm creating these words right now for your post. Doesnt mean that my post have always been there, it's a present tense phrase.
Originally posted by Juntai
Green Lanterns siphon from the combined willpower of the universe also, as do all the other types of lanterns for their respective traits.Which of his feats are universal though?
Knock over a couple buildings? Build a Castle? Beat up Hulk and Juggy? Kill a few X Men?He clearly has an extremely bad case of CIS, because he never displayed anything even remotely in the realm of what Franklin alone could do.
I used to love this story when I was young, but its just so bad.
The scan I posted said that Onslaught is bringing untold wreckage across the Universe. Hes doing this from Earth.
Originally posted by carver9You have to read the whole sentence. He's just noticing what Superman is on a more acute level he hadn't noticed before. When the whole sentence is read, he's talking about what Superman is naturally, not an action being performed for one particular panel for no reason.
You sure it's always around him because the scan said "creating". That's not a word used for something that is always there. Example, I'm creating these words right now for your post. Doesnt mean that my post have always been there, it's a present tense phrase.
"Superman may not be supernatural, but he is [insert explanation]"
It takes reading skills.
Plus, we know well that he is the multiverses personification of the concept of hope.
Originally posted by carver9Even excusing that this seems massive hyperbole given what he showed, he's not talking about about physical damage around the universe--he in fact states what he's implying the damage is: his existence is working as a psychic siphon.
The scan I posted said that Onslaught is bringing untold wreckage across the Universe. Hes doing this from Earth.
But still no feats to show for it.
Even if we assume he had access to a universal level deep well of a power, he was clearly too retarded to access it and use it for anything.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
what's the issue?Many of the JL have outperformed Superman on plenty of occasions, Diana, Guy Gardner, etc. The JL vary under different writers
It happened during the "King of the World" Dominus arc.
Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter combined could not hold him down. He absolutely trounced the League, as did his robots.
The only notable exception was Orion (Hello Abhi! 😛 )
Originally posted by Juntai
You have to read the whole sentence. He's just noticing what Superman is on a more acute level he hadn't noticed before. When the whole sentence is read, he's talking about what Superman is naturally, not an action being performed for one particular panel for no reason."Superman may not be supernatural, but he is [insert explanation]"
It takes reading skills.
Plus, we know well that he is the multiverses personification of the concept of hope.
I understand what you're saying... it would make sense if Superman during that entire story wasnt the key to a lot of spiritual happenings. Spirits during the beginning of the books was using his body to open a spiritual doorway so that they can cross over to Earth. And if Phantom Strange wanted to end Superman, he could have. Superman admits this himself...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44672951/SmartSelect_20191023-205944_Chrome.jpg.html
Everything that happened, PS LET it happen.
Originally posted by Juntai
Even excusing that this seems massive hyperbole given what he showed, he's not talking about about physical damage around the universe--he in fact states what he's implying the damage is: his existence is working as a psychic siphon.But still no feats to show for it.
Even if we assume he had access to a universal level deep well of a power, he was clearly too retarded to access it and use it for anything.
It would be hyperbole if we didnt see the damage but the scan shows what Onslaught is doing. I agree, not physical damage, but him psychically doing universal scale damage is still a universal ft.
Not understanding. The power was there, his goal that he was reaching for was NOT to destroy everything, just rule over it. Example, if Bizarro absorbs Mxy power and Superman one punch ko him 2 pages later, let's not pretend like you wouldn't accept it as Superman knocking out a universal level being because you would.
Originally posted by carver9
It would be hyperbole if we didnt see the damage but the scan shows what Onslaught is doing. I agree, not physical damage, but him psychically doing universal scale damage is still a universal ft.Not understand. The power was there, his goal just that he was reaching for was NOT to destroy everything, just rule over it. Example, if Bizarro absorbs Mxy power and Superman one punch ko him 2 pages later, let's not pretend like you wouldn't accept it as Superman knocking out a universal level being because you would.
Are we talking about Hulk cracking open Onslaughts armor?
You realize that did **** all to him, and simply released his power. Wally West did the exact same thing to COIE Anti-Monitor.
Originally posted by cdtm
Are we talking about Hulk cracking open Onslaughts armor?You realize that did **** all to him, and simply released his power. Wally West did the exact same thing to COIE Anti-Monitor.
His true power? He was FAR more dangerous in his husk vs just being an energy being. It was said on panel that Hulk punched the reality warping powers clean out of Onslaught. Also, even before this fight, Onslaught was unstoppable. Before he even had Franklin inside of him, no one on Earth was capable of stopping him. He became FAR more powerful once he got ahold of Frank. Let's put it like this, lol, before he even got ahold of Xman and Franklin, he was capable of doing this...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44672955/onslaught1.jpg.html
He palmed classic Juggernaut and PINCHED a hole in his chest snatching the gem out. Lol... that ft alone is above any Herald capability. Imagine Superman grabbing Orion and pinching his heart out, all of the Superman fans on KMC would rejoice for years. Hulk physically DESTROYED an Onslaught that was magnitudes more powerful than the one in the scan above. Lol... keep trying to lowball because you're failing bad at it.
Originally posted by carver9He's not actually doing any physical universal damage. He's siphoning power from the astral realm, and it's causing unexplained psychic damage as a side effect. It's no more universal power than a Flash or a Flash villain accidentally damaging the speedforce, which is a universal force that powers all motion in the universe. This has happened numerous times.
It would be hyperbole if we didnt see the damage but the scan shows what Onslaught is doing. I agree, not physical damage, but him psychically doing universal scale damage is still a universal ft.Not understanding. The power was there, his goal that he was reaching for was NOT to destroy everything, just rule over it. Example, if Bizarro absorbs Mxy power and Superman one punch ko him 2 pages later, let's not pretend like you wouldn't accept it as Superman knocking out a universal level being because you would.
He showed zero universal ability.
Originally posted by carver9No it isn't.
The scan outright states it is creating (during that moment) a mass of psychic energy. OMFG
"Thirteen said that there was (this word is past tense) supernatural epicenter in Metropolis - but I see now that he was wrong."
"Creating" is not a present tense word, it doesn't signify a time frame at all, it's just a different form of the word "create". If I were to say,"carver is so silly, he's spent a significant portion of his adult life creating terrible posts on KMC and getting clowned without showing any sign of stopping", while I am describing you as you are in the present, the actions you took that led to this interpretation of you were in the past despite the usage of "creating".
In this case, the line I quoted and the context of the scan make it clear that this isn't Superman making use of his magic powers to create a psychic buffer around himself to shatter Phantom Stranger or whatever the phuck Alberto claimed, it is a result of years of goodwill making people believe he's a cool guy.
If you need any more help comprehending basic English let me know carver. I'll hook you up.
Originally posted by carver9They were latching onto the aura around Superman. That's exactly what he's talking about.
I understand what you're saying... it would make sense if Superman during that entire story wasnt the key to a lot of spiritual happenings. Spirits during the beginning of the books was using his body to open a spiritual doorway so that they can cross over to Earth. And if Phantom Strange wanted to end Superman, he could have. Superman admits this himself...https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44672951/SmartSelect_20191023-205944_Chrome.jpg.html
Everything that happened, PS LET it happen.
Originally posted by carver9Yeah he punched through strangers form and it was useless, just as Hulk tearing off onslaughts armor didn’t do anything.
His true power? He was FAR more dangerous in his husk vs just being an energy being. It was said on panel that Hulk punched the reality warping powers clean out of Onslaught. Also, even before this fight, Onslaught was unstoppable. Before he even had Franklin inside of him, no one on Earth was capable of stopping him. He became FAR more powerful once he got ahold of Frank. Let's put it like this, lol, before he even got ahold of Xman and Franklin, he was capable of doing this...https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44672955/onslaught1.jpg.html
He palmed classic Juggernaut and PINCHED a hole in his chest snatching the gem out. Lol... that ft alone is above any Herald capability. Imagine Superman grabbing Orion and pinching his heart out, all of the Superman fans on KMC would rejoice for years. Hulk physically DESTROYED an Onslaught that was magnitudes more powerful than the one in the scan above. Lol... keep trying to lowball because you're failing bad at it.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No it isn't."Thirteen said that there was (this word is past tense) supernatural epicenter in Metropolis - but I see now that he was wrong."
"Creating" is not a present tense word, it doesn't signify a time frame at all, it's just a different form of the word "create". If I were to say,"carver is so silly, he's spent a significant portion of his adult life creating terrible posts on KMC and getting clowned without showing any sign of stopping", while I am describing you as you are in the present, the actions you took that led to this interpretation of you were in the past despite the usage of "creating".
In this case, the line I quoted and the context of the scan make it clear that this isn't Superman making use of his magic powers to create a psychic buffer around himself to shatter Phantom Stranger or whatever the phuck Alberto claimed, it is a result of years of goodwill making people believe he's a cool guy.
If you need any more help comprehending basic English let me know carver. I'll hook you up.
😂 ... so your post was reasonable until the end. You're a funny guy.
Cant quote Juntai but here...
"Every blow by Hulk unfettered more of Onslaught might"...
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/3353749-hulk%20vs.%20onslaught6.jpg
Even after this Onslaught admits Hulk physically wrecked him.
