TOBA Hulk vs Sundipped Superman

Started by Diesldude3 pages

I am consistent because I don’t think TOBA was defeated by the hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Hulk thunder clap dropping OBA is a low showing but Superman one punch koing World Forger isnt a low showing for World Forger but a high end for Superman AND an average for Sun Dip Supes? Like, is bias and shady your best friends? I feel confident if Superman thunder clap dropped Mxy, you all wouldn't be saying this. Be consistent. Its irritating when you're not
taking cheap shots isn’t helping your cause either.

If the hulk defeated TOBA with a thunderclap then how did he end up possessing the hulk?
If you want to talk about consistency then answer question please.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
If a sundipped Superman can oneshot a multiverse and a being that creates universes he should be able to take on TOAA or at the very least the Living Tribunal
Living Tribunal is on the table, but unless the current Thanos story makes the TOAA as pathetic as I've heard TOAA is not, no.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Hulk thunder clap dropping OBA is a low showing but Superman one punch koing World Forger isnt a low showing for World Forger but a high end for Superman AND an average for Sun Dip Supes? Like, is bias and shady your best friends? I feel confident if Superman thunder clap dropped Mxy, you all wouldn't be saying this. Be consistent. Its irritating when you're not

Well we have confirmation that Savage Hulk is stronger than Immortal.

Immortal dropped TOBA.

So TOBA < Immortal < Savage. It's simple.

Sundipped Superman dropped WF. But Sundipped Superman is stronger than Superman.

So WF< Sundipped > Superman.

No inconsistency there. Sundipped is just that powerful. Problem for Hulk fans is, we've been told (and shown) that Savage, who is arguably Superman level (and not even sundipped) is STRONGER than the guy who dropped TOBA with a Tclap .

Originally posted by NemeBro
Living Tribunal is on the table, but unless the current Thanos story makes the TOAA as pathetic as I've heard TOAA is not, no.

Wait, what? The Living Tribunal has the power to rip the energy out of his cells, or destroy the star before the dip ever begins. If the sundip was the end all be all, why doesn't Superman take another one and break Lex and his team? Could it be due to poor writing?

@Diesldude...

And I dont think World Forger was defeated by Superman.

Diesldude...

Answer this. Shazam defeated Eclipso, how did Superman get possessed by Eclipso. Everyone and their grandma have defeated Puppet Master but how did he still get control of Hulk? Deadman have been defeated but he still possess people afterwards. Wait, how is that possible? How can you defeat a character but then they possess someone else later on? Sigh...

This shows precisely why TOBA Hulk is an alt future, and why it's not quite applicable. There are circumstances and context as to how he got out and defeated everyone - which we don't know.

So how can we give him his feats (defeating Galactus, Franklin etc) when we don't know the circumstances?

We dont need to know how he got out, all we need to know is that he DID get out. If The Batman that laughs (whatever the hell his name is) broke out of that prison, we wouldn't ask how he got out, lol, all we would know is that he was able to get out.

Lol that's just a weak argument.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Lol that's just a weak argument.

I agree. His argument is weak.

Originally posted by Stoic
If the sundip was the end all be all, why doesn't Superman take another one and break Lex and his team? Could it be due to poor writing?
Why doesnt Wally West or Booster Gold just drop their opponents off at the dawn of time?
Why doesnt Batman just go fight baddies in his suits like Justice Buster?
Why doent Hal just Krona shot everyone, or Kyle run around splitting atoms apart with his ring?
Why doesnt Sue Richards just make bubbles inside of people?
Why does the government believe anyone would fall for the idea that Epstien killed himself?

Originally posted by Juntai
Why doesnt Wally West or Booster Gold just drop their opponents off at the dawn of time?
Poor writing. 👆

Comicviners think that TOBA Hulk can defeat Cosmic Armor Superman or Lucifer despite it took billion years for TOBA Hulk to annihilate 10th cosmos.
I can't understand why TOBA Hulk is so wanked.

Originally posted by Juntai
Why doesnt Wally West or Booster Gold just drop their opponents off at the dawn of time?
Why doesnt Batman just go fight baddies in his suits like Justice Buster?
Why doent Hal just Krona shot everyone, or Kyle run around splitting atoms apart with his ring?
Why doesnt Sue Richards just make bubbles inside of people?
Why does the government believe anyone would fall for the idea that Epstien killed himself?

You sir have won the internet for the next month with that last zing.&#128079;

Originally posted by CatL18
Comicviners think that TOBA Hulk can defeat Cosmic Armor Superman or Lucifer despite it took billion years for TOBA Hulk to annihilate 10th cosmos.
I can't understand why TOBA Hulk is so wanked.
Because he's never going to canonically get feats like that against actual characters. Let them enjoy that if they can. 👆

Originally posted by Juntai
Why doesnt Wally West or Booster Gold just drop their opponents off at the dawn of time?
Why doesnt Batman just go fight baddies in his suits like Justice Buster?
Why doent Hal just Krona shot everyone, or Kyle run around splitting atoms apart with his ring?
Why doesnt Sue Richards just make bubbles inside of people?
Why does the government believe anyone would fall for the idea that Epstien killed himself?

There was a mock battle showing Superman and the other heroes defeated if they didn't retrieve the element though. Sundipped Superman isn't on this level.

A mock battle =/= the reality.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A mock battle =/= the reality.

Then why agree with the need to fetch the elements then?

Originally posted by Stoic
Then why agree with the need to fetch the elements then?

Because that avoids confrontation?

Hawkgirl even mentions it. 'Your way involves XYZ.....my way involves killing Luthor' (am paraphrasing).

Doesn't mean that killing Luthor wouldn't work.