Thor and Surfer vs World Breaker Hulk

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hulk can't beat Surfer. He has and can beat Thor though

Would be interesting to see if Thor can drain Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would be interesting to see if Thor can drain Hulk.

He cant be drained. Already tried on WWH but it was outright said that Hulk have an infinite well of energy.

It was tried by noname scrubs like ArmCheddon and Darwin.

Mjolnir and Surfer are the two premier energy manipulators in comics.

Originally posted by lawest9
Some on the forum insist that Surfer cannot drain World Breaker.

Who? Noone who knows what they are talking about. Surfer has never failed against Hulk.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Who? Noone who knows what they are talking about. Surfer has never failed against Hulk.

WWH was on panel proven to be more than Rulk can handle (and he handled Savage Hulk with fair ease, just as Surfer did).

Now imagine WBH's power, which is much superior.

But he also has Mjolnir backing him up as well.

He does.

Fortunately for the Hulk, Mjolnir is in the hands of Thor.

I'm gonna use Mjolnirs sentience, which means that a hammer should enable Thor's IQ to balance out.

Regular Thor and Surfer would get ko'd before WBH gets drained.

Serious Thor and Surfer is another story.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Regular Thor and Surfer would get ko'd before WBH gets drained.

Serious Thor and Surfer is another story.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
WWH was on panel proven to be more than Rulk can handle (and he handled Savage Hulk with fair ease, just as Surfer did).

Now imagine WBH's power, which is much superior.

Not convinced

Hmmm... I'm torn on the draining thing. As saint pointed out Mjolnir and Surfer are two of the premier energy manipulators in comics, so we know that at their best they should be able to drain a truckload of energy from a foe and that Hulk has specific issues with the tactic littered throughout his history. On the other hand, we know that that this particular version of Hulk was specifically resistant to the tactic. It's true that the efforts to drain him were done by less impressive energy manipulators than Thor and Surfer, but then again we know that there were guys like Dr. Strange and Reed Richards working against Hulk too, which suggest on at least some level that if the issue were that the stuff being used to drain wasn't quite enough that someone else would have stepped in to help and ended the ordeal early.

In the end it's a question that can never be definitively proven. Personally I think if we take him as he was presented, WBH's not going to be able to be drained effectively. I mean they might be able to pull all kinds of power out of him, but he genuinely came off as someone who'd always have more once he really started letting go. I'm not 100% sold on it and definitely see Thor and Surfer draining him successfully as being possible, but if that's true the scenario is so lopsided that it wouldn't be worth discussing.

I haven't seen Surfer drain Hulk without touching him (which took moments). This version has astronomically more energy (longer to drain) plus he ramps far faster. He can go from banner to WBH in a heartbeat.

I'm not convinced that Thor can drain beings of this level (or any living being). Otherwise, couldn't he drain Thanos?

Mjolnir took the energy from Thanos.

All of these tactics are bullshit. Thor would dive in and get owned. The Surfer would feel as if he were a part of the big bang as a thunder clap all but erases him. They wouldn't immediately go for tactics that they rarely use. They'd stick the usual blast or punch out routine and they'd die.

Originally posted by Stoic
All of these tactics are bullshit. Thor would dive in and get owned. The Surfer would feel as if he were a part of the big bang as a thunder clap all but erases him. They wouldn't immediately go for tactics that they rarely use. They'd stick the usual blast or punch out routine and they'd die.

Thor you are right...surfer lately has fought smarter than that

Originally posted by Stoic
All of these tactics are bullshit. Thor would dive in and get owned. The Surfer would feel as if he were a part of the big bang as a thunder clap all but erases him. They wouldn't immediately go for tactics that they rarely use. They'd stick the usual blast or punch out routine and they'd die.

Not sure how or why.

Full knowledge means they know how much of a threat WBH was - he'll, iirc WWH, when he was about to sink the Eastern Seaboard with a footstep, had televised it around the world.

Thor has recently sacrificed his eye for wisdom, iirc, PLUS has already admitted he can't overpower a weaker Hulk in Nuul.

Surfer has cosmic awareness, doesn't he Stoic?

So yeah. They have ccmmon knowledge of their opponent. Have actually fought and admitted they can't outbrawl weaker versions. Have been argued before on having cosmic knowledge.

And yet you argue that they'll fight like it's a comic book.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer would feel as if he were a part of the big bang as a thunder clap all but erases him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not sure how or why.

Thor has recently sacrificed his eye for wisdom, iirc, PLUS has already admitted he can't overpower a weaker Hulk in Nuul.