Nov 5th: Huge wins for Democrats. Thanks Trumpers!

Started by Robtard5 pages

Seems Republicans in Kentucky have an opportunity to steal Beshear's win after all.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems Republicans in Kentucky have an opportunity to steal Beshear's win after all.

I decided to google search this issue. I am being inundated with extreme amounts of pro-Democrat, anti-GOP, anti-Trump propaganda with the results.

Despite that, there's clearly a dispute. And a legitimate one, at that. 5000 votes is a very close race. If even one polling place, which is heavily GOP, is proven to have conveniently malfunctioned and turned people away from voting, as claimed, this could change the election outcome.

Double voting, voting when you are not eligible (but not criminal), and the extremely rare voter fraud, all added together, can add up to quite a few improper votes.

This research says 1 in 4000 votes are double votes:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/morse/files/1p1v.pdf

That's far more than I thought. But not enough in Kentucky to change the outcome of the election. The only way to do that would be to "close" a voting site that was in a heavy GOP district AND for those voters to be turned away AND not get to vote. If that situation, as claimed, is true, yes, this can greatly change the outcome of the election.

This is simple: ask everyone who got turned away to come forward. Verify them in a special voting session against the existing voting records to ensure they don't get to double vote. Done. Argument over.

Edit - I really like that paper. It covers a lot of the research around voting fraud and why Americans should stop being complacent with "voting is safe! hardly any voting fraud!" No. It's not. We don't really know how bad it is. It's anywhere from a little bit (enough to be concerned about) to a lot (disastrously terrible).

Odd, I didn't get that at all in my google search.

Here's one from a staunch Right news outlet: Republican-controlled Kentucky Legislature could decide outcome of gubernatorial election

Originally posted by Robtard
Odd, I didn't get that at all in my google search.

Here's one from a staunch Right news outlet: Republican-controlled Kentucky Legislature could decide outcome of gubernatorial election

Washington Examiner did not show up in my first page of results. What did you google?

Also, reading that article, it was written well and fairly. Odd that it is a right-leaning website. Of all the articles I read, it presented the story with the least amount of bias and was not cringe-inducing amounts of bias. I just want the facts, quotes, and direction. I don't want all that other bias-adjectivvy stuff and editorializing.

They have several failed fact checks. Unlike that right-leaning site I posted yesterday that was rated highly for factuality. You can be a biased site but still stick to the fact - nothing wrong with that.

"A recanvassing process challenging Bevin’s 83-vote lead in his 2015 primary election did not change any votes." -Snip

So it's not likely they're going to find that 5,000+ votes were fraudulent this time around.

Bevin's angling to have it go to Congress, where Republicans have the clear advantage in Kentucky.

Originally posted by Robtard
"A recanvassing process challenging Bevin’s 83-vote lead in his 2015 primary election did not change any votes." -Snip

So it's not likely they're going to find that 5,000+ votes were fraudulent this time around.

Bevin's angling to have it go to Congress, where Republicans have the clear advantage in Kentucky.

I'm not sure what outcome I want in this case. I say throw the whole election away and give the win to the 3rd party. 🙂

How undemocratic of you.

Originally posted by Robtard
How undemocratic of you.

Am I undemocratic? Or does the system not actually serve the people because it is controlled by two warmongering corportist parties?

Let's go with the latter according to SCIENCE!

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Edit - I do not support the "democratically elected" two-party, corrupt, candidates. It's likely that the third party candidate cost the GOP candidate the election. If rank choice voting was an option, the third party candidate is likely to have won the election.

The EXTREMELY strong need for a viable 3rd (and 4th) party to exist doesn't do away with a valid election that's already happened.

*does the harlem shake*

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Political parties are mirror images of each other. Same shit with a new face full of contingencies, scape goats, and control over the lives of people.

Originally posted by Robtard
The EXTREMELY strong need for a viable 3rd (and 4th) party to exist doesn't do away with a valid election that's already happened.

*invalid

Almost all are invalid while the duopoly exists.

Guy trying to vote in the Mississippi primary race and his vote gets changed on the machine to Tate Reeves instead.

https://twitter.com/STaylorRayburn/status/1166347828152680449

Something really needs to be done with these older machines.

America's f*cking weird.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
America's f*cking weird.

Still far better than Canada, bud. 😉

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Canada
Not a real word, guy.

Thread titles like this don’t help anyone. It’s not a zero-sum game. “Trumpers” are fellow countrymen. Way too much shade and hate being tossed around.

"Trumper" is a portmanteau of "Trump" and "supporter", even some Trumpers refer to themselves as such with pride. The Trump admin routinely uses "Trumper" and "never Trumper" as well.

Now "Trumpet", sure, that's meant to be derogatory.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thread titles like this don’t help anyone. It’s not a zero-sum game. “Trumpers” are fellow countrymen. Way too much shade and hate being tossed around.

a search under your name produced no results for your anger at the president for calling all democrats "human scum". please explain why one is okay and the other disgusts you. let me guess: fee-fees?

Originally posted by Stoic
Political parties are mirror images of each other. Same shit with a new face full of contingencies, scape goats, and control over the lives of people.

This right here.