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Prince of All Saiyans
Originally posted by Proper_
Before Superman was amped, he was a mid-tier and canonically weaker than regular Superman.
Nonsense.
So we have no idea how powerful Superman with the mother box is except that he lost to HP Doomsday, who has zero planet busting feats
Quite unironically, none of these Hulks do either except Grey Hulk.
Anyway Superman was far more powerful than Kyle Rayner who actually destroyed two planets and contained a supernova by then.
Superman alone beat DD Rex, who has all stats and powers of HP DD, but also gained consciousness.
LMAO, what? That was a clone dummy.
Superman fought Braniac for at least an hour and Braniac is still totally unharmed after all of his hits, then he gets hit by a car (that he saw coming mind you) and is seriously hurt by it and unable to push it off himself.
Is this a serious argument?
The only "amp" Superman had was:
* Some new gear thanks to mother box
* Armor with large gaps in it and no feats to suggest how useful it was
Superman said that in DoS, he = DD, so if DD is stronger, he will definitely lose. And DD was having issues with putting down Superman.
Educate thyself comicvine poster.
Originally posted by Galan007
[b]Section IV: H/P ("Hunter/Prey"😉 DoomsdayIt turns out that Superman was substantially amped when he battled H/P Doomsday--before he even acquired a Mother Box...
A few months before the H/P arc began, a depowered Superman encountered Henshaw in 'Superman' v2 #82. As you can see, Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, but Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman himself. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
http://imgur.com/afwas1f
http://imgur.com/rTviBRf
http://imgur.com/sIa6JDf
http://imgur.com/aifJIPm
http://imgur.com/f7Mln3d
http://imgur.com/UAFgRuW
http://imgur.com/nAPpc9q
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
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Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...
"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
http://imgur.com/cyXBzZW
"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
http://imgur.com/Us6v8mS
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Hamilton explains Superman's amp...
"You're absorbing solar radiation--and other energies--much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite--call it Kryptonite-X."
Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"
Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
http://imgur.com/Q4ptobr
http://imgur.com/1Sb6SFT
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His power increase was ambiguously alluded to during the H/P arc itself...
I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
http://imgur.com/8cCM1Ii
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However, his hugely amplified power during the H/P arc would be flat-out stated years later, in 'The Man of Tomorrow' #9...
"After his recovery, [Superman] was stronger than ever. Good thing, too--'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
http://imgur.com/SuRu2cz
In a nutshell: Superman was massively amped when the H/P arc began(to the point that he could use as little effort as possible, and was still more powerful than he was at his standard levels), yet was laughably inferior to H/P Doomsday. He then further amped his powers with a Mother Box, and was still barely able to give DD pause.
That is a huge testament to how f*cking powerful Doomsday was during that arc. FAR more powerful than I'd previously thought, tbh. [/B]
Also the weakest Superman in canon, Byrne Superman was on the level of Thor/Hercules.
Any other version (DOS) is far above the likes of Thor and Hercules in terms of strength.