Originally posted by carver9
Why is it downgraded?
Because he hasn't got the level of showings that Odin had. remember when Odin was shaking the galaxy or whatever when fighting Seth? Now, Susan Storm can block bloodlusted Allfather's strikes.
There are plenty more low showings for Allfather Thor, too.
Edit: here you go:
https://imgur.com/a/odin-force-thor-overrated-Pz6mxiR
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because he hasn't got the level of showings that Odin had. remember when Odin was shaking the galaxy or whatever when fighting Seth? Now, Susan Storm can block bloodlusted Allfather's strikes.There are plenty more low showings for Allfather Thor, too.
Edit: here you go:
https://imgur.com/a/odin-force-thor-overrated-Pz6mxiR
Lol... this can be done with most characters that is in a comic every week. If I did this to Supes, you would feel some kinda way.
What we know is, regular Thor is high Herald and with the OF he's trans to low skyfather. Choose one.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... this can be done with most characters that is in a comic every week. If I did this to Supes, you would feel some kinda way.What we know is, regular Thor is high Herald and with the OF he's trans to low skyfather. Choose one.
Thor isn't in a comic every week. Superman is in multiple comics every week. So yes there's a difference.
Then balance it out. Tell me all of his skyfather tier showings. All of them.
I don't think Thor is a skyfather (anymore). I do think he is trans tier and Hulk taking on an amped Thor and an amped Ironman (Strange also saying the combined power of the Avengers and Fantastic four can't stop him) easily puts this in the sky father tier of power/showing. Didn't this same version of Thor match Thanos? Denying Hulk having MULTIPLE fts of skyfather levels of power is borderline funny at this point.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think Thor is a skyfather (anymore). I do think he is trans tier and Hulk taking on an amped Thor and an amped Ironman (Strange also saying the combined power of the Avengers and Fantastic four can't stop him) easily puts this in the sky father tier of power/showing. Didn't this same version of Thor match Thanos? Denying Hulk having MULTIPLE fts of skyfather levels of power is borderline funny at this point.
But the Odinforce made Odin....one of the top tier skyfathers, if not the top.
You admitting that Thor ISN'T skyfather tier, proves my point:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah the Odinforce/Thorforce has really been downgraded from it's classic days.
Thanks. Concession accepted.
Originally posted by carver9
Odin is the top of the chain Skyfather but I'm not going to give Thor all of Odin fts just like I won't give Deathstroke all of Flash fts when he gained access to the speed force. Not how this works.
Not saying you give him Odin's feats.
Am saying that the OF isn't as powerful as it was in its classic days. You either agree with it or not.
And if you do not, then please provide proof it is as powerful. Simple.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not saying you give him Odin's feats.Am saying that the OF isn't as powerful as it was in its classic days. You either agree with it or not.
And if you do not, then please provide proof it is as powerful. Simple.
The Odin Force is as powerful. The only reason I'm not saying Thor is skyfather level is due to consistency and Thor not having Odin Galaxy busting and Universe shaking fts (even though his recent fight against Hulk threatened the Universe).
What I am saying is that Thor with the Odin Force is trans tier and is more powerful than his high Herald self. Hulk breaking his skull in a single punch and over powering him with one hand is some skyfather level sh**. Then when you factor in an amped Ironman assisting him, it makes the ft even more crazy. Especially considering again that the combined power of the Avengers isn't enough to even challenge Hulk (and this Hulk isn't even close to being the most powerful).
Originally posted by carver9
The Odin Force is as powerful. The only reason I'm not saying Thor is skyfather level is due to consistency and Thor not having Odin Galaxy busting and Universe shaking fts (even though his recent fight against Hulk threatened the Universe).What I am saying is that Thor with the Odin Force is trans tier and is more powerful than his high Herald self. Hulk breaking his skull in a single punch and over powering him with one hand is some skyfather level sh**. Then when you factor in an amped Ironman assisting him, it makes the ft even more crazy. Especially considering again that the combined power of the Avengers isn't enough to even challenge Hulk (and this Hulk isn't even close to being the most powerful).
So in short, just saying 'Odin Force' Thor means nothing, as he doesn't show Odin's level of feats.
Ok, what trans tier feats has he shown? I've shown plenty of low showings up ahead, so to be balanced we should have plenty of good showings for Trans Thor.