T-800 (Terminator 1984 film) vs. Boba Fett (Classic Star Wars film Trilogy)

Started by Robtard3 pages

"There will be a substantial reward for the one who finds the Millennium Falcon. You are free to use any methods necessary, but I want them alive. No disintegration." -Vader ep5

Originally, Vader was likely telling the bounty hunters (including Boba) that they're not to destry the ship and kill everyone onboard, as he wants his son alive.

It was later retconned in 2017 via book that Boba had disintegrated three targets who attacked his with ion disruptors, using a 'weapon accelerator' back at them and Vader wouldn't pay up as there was no physical proof that Boba had killed his bounty.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Darth Vader tells Boba not to disentagrate Luke and the rest in the films.

Yes, but that's not the same as a scene showing the actual disintegration taking place. It's certainly reasonable to assume that the weaponry is within Boba's arsenal from the statement, though.

Originally posted by Robtard
"There will be a substantial reward for the one who finds the Millennium Falcon. You are free to use any methods necessary, but I want them alive. No disintegration." -Vader ep5

Originally, Vader was likely telling the bounty hunters (including Boba) that they're not to destry the ship and kill everyone onboard, as he wants his son alive.

It was later retconned in 2017 via book that Boba had disintegrated three targets who attacked his with ion disruptors, using a 'weapon accelerator' back at them and Vader wouldn't pay up as there was no physical proof that Boba had killed his bounty.

This is news to me, and I appreciate knowing it. Thank you.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
There is to-date only one on-screen example of a Mandalorian disintegration weapon that I know of. Unfortunately, it is not in the films.

Boba had it in the Star Wars Christmas special I believe

Oh did he? It's been so long, and I think I've only ever seen clips of it, so I couldn't recall.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Yes, but that's not the same as a scene showing the actual disintegration taking place. It's certainly reasonable to assume that the weaponry is within Boba's arsenal from the statement, though.

This is news to me, and I appreciate knowing it. Thank you.

From: Star Wars: From A Certain Point of View

I picked up trooper buzz that Vader was looking for a couple of runaway droids. Figured I’d collect the bounty and square myself with the headman at the same time. He’s still got a mad on over those rebel spies I crisped on Coruscant. Idiots came at me with ion disruptors. What, they thought I wouldn’t carry a weapon accelerator? Flash, boom, three tiny ash piles. Tried to collect and Lord “No Disintegrations!” refused to pay without bodies. My word’s not good enough, apparently. ...

... Betting the third ran with the droids. I’ll hunt around after I’m done here. Vader may triple the bounty if I bring him the fugitive along with the droids. Yeah, I know, intact corpse, “no disintegrations.” -snip

Fascinating!

Originally posted by Robtard
From: Star Wars: From A Certain Point of View

I picked up trooper buzz that Vader was looking for a couple of runaway droids. Figured I’d collect the bounty and square myself with the headman at the same time. He’s still got a mad on over those rebel spies I crisped on Coruscant. Idiots came at me with ion disruptors. What, they thought I wouldn’t carry a weapon accelerator? Flash, boom, three tiny ash piles. Tried to collect and Lord “No Disintegrations!” refused to pay without bodies. My word’s not good enough, apparently. ...

... Betting the third ran with the droids. I’ll hunt around after I’m done here. Vader may triple the bounty if I bring him the fugitive along with the droids. Yeah, I know, intact corpse, “no disintegrations.” -snip

Boba deserved so much better than what he got

Lord “no disintegration’s!” I love that

@Robtard

Stupid thing won't let me quote.

Anyway, Psychotron, and this thread are pertaining to one thing in particular, on-screen.

I think, by those rules, only stuff that happened in the movies can work.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
@Robtard

Stupid thing won't let me quote.

Anyway, Psychotron, and this thread are pertaining to one thing in particular, on-screen.

I think, by those rules, only stuff that happened in the movies can work.

When that happens, use the quick-quote function.

Yeah, I'd not take what was said in the books as belonging in this thread. This is Ep4-6 Boba only. Was just giving backstory.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Oh, I agree, but the topic creator hasn't stated whether it's the one from the past or a run-of-the-mill future T-800.

Also, was that a plasma weapon?:

YouTube video

That was an electric shock, from the looks of it. ^ Yes, electricity is used to make Plasma, but what Plasma is shown to be in the movies is clearly different then what the T-X shoots.

That was also a T-850, while there don't appear to be that many differences, they are PROBABLY more durable.

Blasters Shoot Plasma.

Again, Boba has several different weapons besides just blasters, including thermal detonators and wrist rockets.

Even if we were arguing composite or legends Boba, legends blasters shoot concentrated bursts of particle beams, what are particle beams?:

"A particle beam (sometimes [B]plasma beam, or charged particle beam) is an accelerated stream of charged particles such as electrons and protons, often accelerated towards the speed of light. In the laboratory, such beams are created by particle accelerators such as cathode ray tubes, cyclotrons, and the dense plasma focus. In nature, particle beams are created by electric fields (which accelerate charged particles in opposite directions), such as those in double layers and Birkeland currents."

No matter how you slice it, Boba has all the equipment to ruin the T-800.

If we're arguing future T-800, I'd still argue in favor of Boba, he has the superior weaponry, he can fly, and while he isn't the best marksman in terms of the movies, I'd argue he doesn't need to be, he can literally just fly around while taking pot shots at the T-800 and easily avoid all his shots.

The T-800 is also extremely overconfident, usually rushing through everything in it's way, he'd probably think Boba was a complete non-threat and end up taking a bunch of blaster bolts, or worse, a thermal detonator. [/B]

Then we have to assume it's a standard T-800 with standard equipment, meaning a plasma rifle.

It's described as a plasma canon. The T-X is powered by a plasma reactor, according to the Terminator.

The difference between a T-800 and T-850 is mostly in the power source. All Terminators are made from a titanium/coltan alloy.

I've already explained why the T-800 should be able to tank blaster bolts. If humans and droids can do it, he can do it. The Termimator asseses danger. He doesn't give a shit when he's fighting people with firearms because they can't really hurt him, but if he's fighting a guy with advanced weaponry he would take him more seriously.

Boba Fett was merked by a blind guy. The T-800 has this in the bag. All it takes is one shot.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yes:

https://www.starwars.com/video/no-disintegrations

Lines are not feats. We don't know how this disintegration happened.