How strong is adamantium?

Started by StiltmanFTW4 pages
Originally posted by Stoic
Didn't Gladiator break one of Wolverines claws in the future? I'm referring to an older issue of Guardians of the Galaxy. If so, how far down that list would he make it?

A future. There are countless futures in the MU, which is exactly why they don't count when we discuss the mainstream continuity stuff.

But yeah, it happened in GotG.

Alternate Gladiator did that after fighting alternate Wolverine for whole 6 days, I remind you.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
[b]A future. There are countless futures in the MU, which is exactly why they don't count when we discuss the mainstream continuity stuff.

But yeah, it happened in GotG.

Alternate Gladiator did that after fighting alternate Wolverine for whole 6 days, I remind you. [/B]

Okay, so would this list stack up to that Gladiator if he went berserk on it for 6 days? I'm assuming comparable thickness. Gladiator of 616 continuity is a planet destroyer per on panel citation, and 616 Wolverine was recently able to cut him. Not sure if that was PIS, but let's assume that it wasn't.

Wolverine cut and stabbed plenty of Gladiator-level beings and above.

Count Nefaria, amped Mangog, Terminus, Thanos powered by the Infinity Gauntlet, Titannus and so on.

It's a standard feat for him.

Gladiator beat the shit out of Logan in Morrison's X-Men and his skeleton was perfectly fine.

S'ym wasn't able to damage it either, despite being able to break adamantium from an alternate universe.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then we should go with writer intent, and use Thor's showings from that time period to see how THAT writer viewed his strength.

Not with your assumptions.

Makes sense.
But it will be difficult to prove writer's intentions, especially if we see Thor mostly hit Hulk and other beings around with between 10-1000 ton force (operate in that range). That's why we have high and low showings.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Banner has stated that adamantium is unbreakable even by Hulk's standards.

It has withstood countless Class 100+ attacks, strikes from indestructible weapons, massive beams of energy and explosions of all kinds.

Just because you want it to be barely stronger than RL steel, doesn't make it so.

Since when is 100-500x stronger = barely?

The strongest steel alloys can withstand major tonnage of force. Multiplying that by 100-500 is practically indestructible. Things that are arguably more durable was broken and damaged (not wholly indestructible).

Stated to be one thing and shown to be another is two different things.

Basically if you believe that adamantium is more than 500x stronger than the strongest steel then you should supply a feat proving it instead of flaming and trolling.

Since we're discussing comics, it really is.

Don't play dumb. Hulk has pummeled Wolverine on plenty of occasions with no effect.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine cut and stabbed plenty of Gladiator-level beings and above.

Count Nefaria, amped Mangog, Terminus, Thanos powered by the Infinity Gauntlet, Titannus and so on.

It's a standard feat for him.

Gladiator beat the shit out of Logan in Morrison's X-Men and his skeleton was perfectly fine.

S'ym wasn't able to damage it either, despite being able to break adamantium from an alternate universe.

Same way an alternate Wolverine broke claws against Deaths Head.

Adamantium is nearly unbreakable, and only nearly because Superman isn't in Marvel to break it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Same way an alternate Wolverine broke claws against Deaths Head.

Adamantium is nearly unbreakable, and only nearly because Superman isn't in Marvel to break it.

There is no such thing as near unbreakable. The same as no such thing as near infinite.

Originally posted by cdtm
Same way an alternate Wolverine broke claws against Deaths Head.

Adamantium is nearly unbreakable, and only nearly because Superman isn't in Marvel to break it.

616 Wolverine cut the shit out of Death's Head 👆

Superman sucks.

Has anyone destroyed adamantium in 616 reality? The only times I can recall adamantium being damaged was in alternate futures, alternate universes, or it being retconned as secondary adamantium.

Well, that have been some instances that's debatable. Hulk stabbed Wolverine claws through his skull. Hulk ripping adamantium netting. Hulk breaking Wolverine rib and then we have that Ultron showing.

Morlun have a showing but we dont know if that is secondary.

Originally posted by zopzop
Has anyone destroyed adamantium in 616 reality? The only times I can recall adamantium being damaged was in alternate futures, alternate universes, or it being retconned as secondary adamantium.

What Carver said and the fact that Cap's shield has been damaged. Unless you believe that adamantium is more durable than Cap's shield?

Originally posted by h1a8
What Carver said and the fact that Cap's shield has been damaged. Unless you believe that adamantium is more durable than Cap's shield?
Cap's shield has never been pure Adamantium iirc and Vibranium just isn't as durable.

Cap's shield is a unique mix, made by a freakish accident, metallurgist dude literally fell asleep when it happened.

Then it got uru added to it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Then it got uru added to it.
Uh... Sorry to hear that, Cap.

Originally posted by h1a8
Makes sense.
But it will be difficult to prove writer's intentions, especially if we see Thor mostly hit Hulk and other beings around with between 10-1000 ton force (operate in that range). That's why we have high and low showings.

Not difficult, one just needs to be familiar with Roy Thomas (the writer) and the Thor showings around that time (1969).

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Uh... Sorry to hear that, Cap.

😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Alternate Gladiator did that after fighting alternate Wolverine for whole 6 days, I remind you.

That's one slow speedblitz 😖hifty:

Adamantium grows stronger in new forms so every time it is formed from liquid or has another action with it it will pierce the object.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not difficult, one just needs to be familiar with Roy Thomas (the writer) and the Thor showings around that time (1969).

Thor was wildly inconsistent around that time. He had some shitty lows.