Transformers

Started by Spawnie7 pages

I saw the clip and I showed it to my cgi ignorent friends, and they were surprised on the quality of the video. Guys give it 5 minutes to check out what that guy did in 3d studio max. Very cute and nicely done.

In the 80's they made toys that could last u a lifetime. It wasnt' just the transformers that were made of metal. I remember looking at a nice big Mazinger Z made out of metal and the joints were magnetic. He had more then one set of other flying fists and such. U can still se it on E bay I think. It'a a delux limited edition that is 20 years old, straight from japan. It was the best toy I have ever seen.

In the 80's we had a boom of robot like toons, and so it was in the toy stores also. But back then it was worth going to the store and buying a Vultus 5 made mostly out of mettalic spray painted metal. I remember being 6 and walking into a store toy store in Italy, that store had a whole wall full of robot like toys. Now picture yourself being 6 years old and your mom says that u have to pick ONE! I was so nervous that I didn't know what to do, I was there and I couldn't choose, lol. I almost cried cuz I only had to take one, hhhahahahha.

U don't get those kind of toys anymore, the golden age is over. And so is the age of original scripts and good movies. It can still be done but noone is really trying, right?

I almost forgot, RagesRemorse.

I remember that with those transformers u got a booklet of instructions on how to transform them. If u didn't perform it in a right manner then the results were that u could brake one of the little joints. For those that don't know, the joints had small screws on them, like the ones on watches. I really miss those toys.

i hate it when they'd break. I have all of the construcitcons, so i can form devestator... but the parts that connect the arms to the torso dont hold anymore... i have to use rubber bands 😕

Bummer. If my kids hadn't lost my Scavenger and Scrapper guys, I'd still be able to make Devastator, too. Sigh. Hindsight's always 20/20. I'd give almost anything to have those Megatron, Optimus and Starscream toys back, too.

yeah, i remember the first time i got optimus and he came in the mack truck trailer. Toys kicked ass back in those days. no toys has shit on the original transformers, gi joe, and exosquad

I always got frustrated because I found it difficult and time-consuming to transform the little buggers.

ghostbusters and ninja turtles used to be awesome too, can't leave those out....

defaintly i had the ghostbusters firehouse and ecto 1. When i get amrried im going to wear a ghostbuster jump suit and a proton pack, but everyone else must wear suits and ties

Lol, oh lordie. Well it's an original idea. 😄

I only had a few ghost busters (me and my brother), no houses. 🙁

I also had a big ass RoboCop that could change weapons on his right forearm. I think it was like 18 inches.

I wish for the old transformers to come back as a toy line. I mean why not, they probably will if the movie has any success.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I always got frustrated because I found it difficult and time-consuming to transform the little buggers.

God, they're even harder now, since they're made of plastic, and they're so complicated. You want to transform them, but you're afraid, because if ya twist or turn a part the wrong way, it snaps off. And then you have to transform some of the new one 6 or 7 times before you get the hang of it. And if you lose the directions, you're hatin' it.

Originally posted by Spawnie
Lol, oh lordie. Well it's an original idea. 😄

I only had a few ghost busters (me and my brother), no houses. 🙁

I also had a big ass RoboCop that could change weapons on his right forearm. I think it was like 18 inches.

I wish for the old transformers to come back as a toy line. I mean why not, they probably will if the movie has any success.

They actually have released a line called the Commemorative Editions--a limited line that will keep expanding. Replicas of the originals, even exactly to scale, and the prices are reasonable--about $30 apiece so far. For Autobots, last season's re-issues include Ironhide, Jazz, maybe Red-Alert, and a couple of others that I can't remember. No Optimus, but I still have my original.
Decepticon releases are Starscream and Thundercracker, and I think Skywarp, and I can't remember who else, but there are more. No Megatron or Soundwave yet, but I am sure they will redo those as well. Hopefully while I'm still (relatively) young.

do u have a site that has those? if u do plz post!

Oh, sure. I love the first site I'll post below--it's totally comprehensive, and one of my faves. The 2nd is Hasbro's Trasnformers site. I saw today that they are releasing a 20th anniversary edition of Optimus Prime! I imagine it'll sell for about $40-50.

http://www.planetcybertron.com

http://www.transformers.com

its closer to 60 or 70 i think, and im pretty sure its already out...

Transformers Live Action Movie Ideas, Opening Sequence...

I’ve been thinking about how they should go about this new Live-Action Transformers film ever since they announced it. Here are my thoughts:

They HAVE to be faithful to the original cartoons in some respects so new audiences will understand what Transformers are all about. First and foremost, it’s all about the Transformers, not the human characters (with respect to Spike and his father). Start off by casting no-name actors so they don’t garner any attention. Second, they MUST gather all of the voices responsible for the original transformers. I would also love to hear Vince DiCola responsible for the Soundtrack. I just can’t think of another composer that has brought the Transformers world to life as much as he did. As far as story, they need to come up with a more meaningful way of how and why the Transformers were split into both Autobots and Decepticons. And also, explain how and why they managed to land on Earth. Remember, this should be a serious, well written story that is made believable. In the cartoon it is the Decepticons that chase the Autobots into space before crashing into Earth. I think the following solution is a better one, more suited to a live-action film, and much clearer to the audience.

When they begin to explain this story, they should start off on Cybertron, and quickly explain how these robots once lived with one another, peacefully. They should explain how there once was 1 single race of Robot being, complete with their own language (it would be subtitled to the audience, only in the beginning of the film while on Cybertron). We see how they transform into spacecrafts and such machinery that is ADAPTABLE to their home planet of Cybertron.

My next question is: HOW the Tranformers decided to split and choose between good and evil, becoming both the Autobots and Decepticons, also bearing their famous symbols? I think the back-story and reasoning for this is that the Decepticons chose to abuse their purpose in life (Yes, all Transformers are alive and possess a Spark). The greedy Decepticons planned to consume all Energon (even stealing it from Autobots, leaving them to be powerless, resulting in death), depleting the planet of Cybertron of all of its resources. This was their only means of survival, and it was NOT a plan designed for the future for all Transformers to coexist with one another peacefully.

Energon was important to the Decepticons because it would retain their “Spark” or “robot soul” (which shouldn’t be explained, ala midichloreans), thus giving them the ultimate power to rule and live forever – as long as no one would stand in their way. The Autobots thought of this as a threat to all life in the universe and felt that the Decepticons and their leader, Megatron, must be stopped. The Theme would ultimately be “The Circle of Life: We are meant to do good in this universe with the time allotted to us, for both humans and robots alike, then we must pass on our knowledge to future generations. We are not meant to live forever, and neither are the Transformers. On a side note, a Transformers’ lifespan would last for roughly 3 Million Years, compared to our 70-80 years of life.

So, Prime and his robot followers decided its best to stay on Cybertron and possibly come up with other forms of energy, not as powerful as Energon, but enough to survive. Soon enough the Decepticons go to war with the Autobots. It’s a spectacular showdown between both sides. The more powerful Decepticons decide to leave Cybertron (along with their last remaining sources of Energon) in a starship in search of a new planet to dominate. Leaving the Autobots mauled and their once beloved planet Cybertron in ruins, Optimus Prime and his fellow Autobots decide it’s in their best interest to Preserve life in the Entire Universe and stop the evil Decepticons at all costs. So a chase ensues in space between their 2 Super Starships.

The battle causes both ships to crash-land into Earth, through a mountain at the tip of an island (Hawaii). The crash was so deep, over time it caused the mountain to form into a volcano, which later became known as the (Volcano of Kilauea). Due to the impact, the Transformers suffer an electrical blowout, causing all transformers to automatically shut down. The ruined ships were submerged underwater beneath the volcano, along with the Transformers who were kept deactivated for almost 2 Million years.

Now, 2 Million years later, we’re in modern times on Earth, with humans inhabiting the planet. Back at the crash site, the volcano erupts causing the main controls of the ship to regain power. This releases a small robot which was designed to help ALL transformers ADAPT and BLEND to their surrounding environment when they are first “Born” by means of “Transforming”. So it reaches the surface above the water and into the city. It begins scouting for possible devices and machinery as well as the languages used on the planet for communication. This information is scanned and recorded which then is brought back to the ship for the sole purpose of blending and ADAPTING the Transformers to the new environment. Before reactivating the Transformers, the scouting robot then applies these new forms to both Autobots and Decepticons, reshaping their bodies. We see that the Autobots are reactivated first, with Optimus Prime, their leader, awaking form a long slumber, confused and trying to understand what has happened. Prime manages to restart Main Control and plug himself in, in order to gather all information up to the point of impact. When he realizes what has happened, and where he’s located in the universe, he and his fellow Autobots immediately search for any surviving Decepticons that may be harboring nearby. But to their surprise and confusion, the Decepticons have somehow vanished from their ruined Starship submerged under the water.

The Autobots then rise above Sea level in search of the Decepticons. And while doing so, they transform themselves in disguise to blend with this new planet which they now inhabit, while keeping a keen eye for the enemy…..

As far as some great scenes that should be implemented into the story:

Have the Transformers interact with the planet and some humans as well, such as Bumblebee/Spike. A great scene involving Optimus forced to transform and reveal himself to the humans in order to save them from certain doom. A final battle between Megatron and Optimus Prime which leads into the White House, or atop the capital building in Washington DC. I see many anti-war messages thrown into this film. The possibilities are endless. I want to see characters rise and fall. Both robot and human casualties. I want to feel the same sense of loss to some of the characters that we love, like we did in the first film (1984), but also feel that sense of heroism when the Autobots pull through in the end. Or do they?

Back to the different types of machines the Transformers should transform into… I think they should make sense, depending on scale and size. I think they should eliminate the Transformers ability to shrink (Megatron shrinking into a gun for Starscream to hold and shoot) which made lots of fans of the original annoyed; it was something we all had to accept. It’s pointless to try to explain in a Live Action film, so they should throw away that idea all together. Megatron should still keep his evil look that he had in the cartoon, but transform into a tank or some weapon of mass destruction, maybe some super Jet with cannons on each wing, so it’s Megatron and his 3 minions – Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp. Soundwave should transform into some communication device that houses other smaller devices (ala Ravage, Rumble, Lazerbeak). Optimus and the rest of the Autobots should look as real as the vehicles are supposed to look in real life. Overall, the machines they transform into should make sense. No tape recorders… this is not the 80’s. This is the new millennium with an audience that expects SO much from film. They must be Generation 1 Transformers, but, take the best from Generation 1 and abandon the cheese that also came with it.

These are some of my thoughts. Let me know what you think. We definitely need the film makers to see what us fans want to see in this film. Dreamworks is responsible, and with the Spielberg name, it has great potential to be the next BIG FRANCHISE.

Do you agree or Disagree. Lets hear some discussion......

okay.... that was a good post and all, but you wanted discussion, so heres what ive been able to discover

about the voice actors... over 80% of the actors from the original are DEAD, including starscream's from a crack overdose (stupid drugs, i hate them!!!) They DID however manage to recruit the original voice actors for Optimus Prime and Megatron/Soundwave/varoius other decepticons (same voice).

About Transforming... so far, all thransformers are said to still transform into their original forms, except for Megatron. And no, its not because of the "shrinking" issue, its because hasbro can no longer make toys that resemble real firearms, and if they were to do a movie edition of the toys (which i highly expect they will) they would be unable to make one for the main antagonist.

Oh, and Yes, it is Generation 1 transformers

Originally posted by Kontraz
okay.... that was a good post and all, but you wanted discussion, so heres what ive been able to discover

about the voice actors... over 80% of the actors from the original are DEAD, including starscream's from a crack overdose (stupid drugs, i hate them!!!) They DID however manage to recruit the original voice actors for Optimus Prime and Megatron/Soundwave/varoius other decepticons (same voice).

About Transforming... so far, all thransformers are said to still transform into their original forms, except for Megatron. And no, its not because of the "shrinking" issue, its because hasbro can no longer make toys that resemble real firearms, and if they were to do a movie edition of the toys (which i highly expect they will) they would be unable to make one for the main antagonist.

Oh, and Yes, it is Generation 1 transformers

That's too bad about Megatron--he was one of my favorite toys. The level of detail on the S&W Walther P-38 was absolutely outstanding. It's a real pity they won't re-release it. It's no more dangerous than any of the other weaponry from the show or the comic.
I thought most of the other voice actors were alive--and that we had only lost a handful along the way--most notably Chris Latta and Scatman Crothers.
You say they were able to cast Frank Welker (Megatron/Soundwave) AND Peter Cullen (Optimus Prime/Ironhide)? That's outstanding. I see Welker actively still working on many cartoon shows even now, and Peter Cullen worked on several of Disney's cartoon shows and still does commercial voicework for Cartoon Network--including the current advertisements for Toonami.
Also, I know that Casey Kasem is still alive and well, and still doing the voice of Shaggy from Scooby Doo and also voiced Cliffjumper and the Autobot mainframe Teletran-1. Then there's B.J.Ward, who did Scarlett from GI Joe and Arcee from the Transformers movie, Jack Angel, Michael Bell, Neil Ross, Don Messick, and Corey Burton. I'm pretty sure all of them are still alive, too. And then there's all the people I'm forgetting from the original series, as well as the celebrity voices from the movie--which are considerable in number and quality.
Leonard Nimoy (Galvatron), Judd Nelson (Hot Rodd-R. Prime), Robert Stack (Ultra Magnus), John Moschitta (Blurr), Lionel Standish as the aged war hero Kupp, and the now deceased Orson Welles, who played Unicron. There are more, but that's all I remember off-hand.

well, heres the list of the alive and dead rollcall, i guess...

Jack Angel (Astrotrain), Susan Blu (Arcee), Arthur Burghardt (Devastator), Greg Berger (Grimlock), Michael Bell (Prowl, Swoop, several others), Corey Burton (Spike, Shockwave, Brawn), Paul Eiding (Perceptor), Dan Geilvezan (Bumblebee), and Casey Kasem (Cliffjumper)

All the others are dead! Scatman Crothers (Jazz), John Messick (Ratchet), the guy for Cyclonus, Blitzwing, etc... they're all dead. BJ Davis (Dirge) retired from voice acting, so did Walker Edminston (Inferno), and Buster Jones (Blaster).

I don't think they wont' be able to find ppl that can replicate those voices or make some new ones. I'm sure that replacements can be found without too much trouble.

Originally posted by Kontraz
well, heres the list of the alive and dead rollcall, i guess...

Jack Angel (Astrotrain), Susan Blu (Arcee), Arthur Burghardt (Devastator), Greg Berger (Grimlock), Michael Bell (Prowl, Swoop, several others), Corey Burton (Spike, Shockwave, Brawn), Paul Eiding (Perceptor), Dan Geilvezan (Bumblebee), and Casey Kasem (Cliffjumper)

All the others are dead! Scatman Crothers (Jazz), John Messick (Ratchet), the guy for Cyclonus, Blitzwing, etc... they're all dead. BJ Davis (Dirge) retired from voice acting, so did Walker Edminston (Inferno), and Buster Jones (Blaster).

All the others? That's only like 5 people. I didn't know Messick and Jones were dead. That's too bad. Ratchet's voice ought to be easy enough to match, and Blaster wasn't even there until the 2nd season, so that solves that issue as well. What else have you got? 6 or 7 dead out of 30+ who contributed, is still pretty decent--and technically nowhere even near 80%.
But your thorough research of the current status of all those people is pretty impressive, so let's call it even. We both know a ton about the Transformers--that's fairly obvious. Between the two of us, I bet we could answer any question the others may have, don't you agree?