RoS Kylo Ren vs. Canon Vader

The usual....

Force

Sabers

All out

Do Kylo's new feats stack up against the mighty Disney Vader?? 🤔

Kylo is underrated but Vader takes all, force ability being the closest.

Vader. Canon Vader has feats like easily crushing AT-AT walkers with the Force. And as for lightsabers... Kylo's only feats are almost dying to Rey twice, needing to be saved from one of Snoke's guards, and beating the Knights of Ren, who are featless.

Originally posted by Psychotron
. And as for lightsabers... Kylo's only feats are almost dying to Rey twice.

Vader still wins. But it’s very close.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Vader. Canon Vader has feats like easily crushing AT-AT walkers with the Force. And as for lightsabers... Kylo's only feats are almost dying to Rey twice, needing to be saved from one of Snoke's guards, and beating the Knights of Ren, who are featless.

I think sabers clearly goes to Vader, as it's hard to measure just how good Kylo's skills are. Force powers are more debatable. I would favor Vader, because of the atst feat you mentioned, destroying an entire army single handedly in Vader Down, force waves powerful enough to shatter lylacs, which are impervious to blaster fire.. also, didn't Vader single-handedly kill a giant creature that wiped out an entire civilization?

xPRIMEx, why would beating Rey in a duel be impressive? Rey was getting her ass kicked by Luke in TLJ until she pulled a lightsaber on him. She has pretty much no training. You could say the same about ROTJ Luke, but Luke can be scaled from Vader. Rey and Kylo only have feats against each other.

Originally posted by Psychotron
xPRIMEx, why would beating Rey in a duel be impressive? Rey was getting her ass kicked by Luke in TLJ until she pulled a lightsaber on him. She has pretty much no training. You could say the same about ROTJ Luke, but Luke can be scaled from Vader. Rey and Kylo only have feats against each other.

On another note, in The Rise of Kylo Ren comic Kylo took out 3 Jedi just using the force alone. And I’m sure we’ll see the knights of ren get some nice feats in later issues as well.

Originally posted by Psychotron
xPRIMEx, why would beating Rey in a duel be impressive? Rey was getting her ass kicked by Luke in TLJ until she pulled a lightsaber on him. She has pretty much no training. You could say the same about ROTJ Luke, but Luke can be scaled from Vader. Rey and Kylo only have feats against each other.

Do you realize who Rey defeated at the END of RoS? I think Kylo defeating Rey just before that is a huge feather in Kylo's cap.

If Luke struggles against the Knights of Ren in the next issue it will end up being quite a decent feat for Kylo

Originally posted by Psychotron
Vader. Canon Vader has feats like easily crushing AT-AT walkers with the Force. And as for lightsabers... Kylo's only feats are almost dying to Rey twice, needing to be saved from one of Snoke's guards, and beating the Knights of Ren, who are featless.

Easily crushing AT AT walkers? Can I get a source? I thought he only lifted up an AT-AT leg.

Originally posted by Scizard
If Luke struggles against the Knights of Ren in the next issue it will end up being quite a decent feat for Kylo

Originally posted by Scizard
If Luke struggles against the Knights of Ren in the next issue it will end up being quite a decent feat for Kylo

Lukes taking on a lot more than Kylo did.

Numbers do tend to be a Jedi weakness in canon going by AOTC, and TCW but we shall have to wait and see.

Originally posted by Forschbewithu
Do you realize who Rey defeated at the END of RoS? I think Kylo defeating Rey just before that is a huge feather in Kylo's cap.

Kylo fought her before she was giga amped by the spirit of every Jedi ever.

Originally posted by Scizard
Easily crushing AT AT walkers? Can I get a source? I thought he only lifted up an AT-AT leg.

No, the walker was trying to stomp him, he stopped it, and began crushing it.

Vader wins

Vader.

Vader slaughters him
Vastly more skilled and powerful

Vader sweeps