Kylo Ren runs a PT gauntlet

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Choreography? I use scaling just like you do.

The Knights Of Ren were pre-schooler-Padawans that Kylo took with him when he burned down Luke's temple.

Then they grew up into fodder-mooks.

Padawan-Anakin could absolutely slaughter the Knights Of Ren without breaking a sweat.

And again, Kylo's skill is around ESB-Luke at best - he sucks.

Qui-Gon would stomp Kylo easily.

And Dooku or Windu would easily shitstomp Kylo while being blindfolded, with one hand tied behind their back.

All of the PT Jedi and Sith shit all over Kylo.

No need to get all mad and call me names like a ****ing child. Grow up

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Choreography? I use scaling just like you do.

The Knights Of Ren were pre-schooler-Padawans that Kylo took with him when he burned down Luke's temple.

Then they grew up into fodder-mooks.

Padawan-Anakin could absolutely slaughter the Knights Of Ren without breaking a sweat.

And again, Kylo's skill is around ESB-Luke at best - he sucks.

Qui-Gon would stomp Kylo easily.

And Dooku or Windu would easily shitstomp Kylo while being blindfolded, with one hand tied behind their back.

All of the PT Jedi and Sith shit all over Kylo.

Your entire argument is based off of choreography and assumptions. We won't be able to scale Kylo from the KoR until we see them fight Luke. All we know is that they are force sensitive and comparable to the inquisitors per the authors statement.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Also the KoR weren't Lukes students. Get your facts straight before you start talking shit.

Luke says that after Kylo burned down his temple, he took a handful of his students and fled.

Did he eat them, or what? 🙄 😆

Originally posted by xPRIMEx

Your entire argument is based off of choreography and assumptions. We won't be able to scale Kylo from the KoR until we see them fight Luke. All we know is that they are force sensitive and comparable to the inquisitors per the authors statement.

Scaling, retard. My argument is based off scaling. 🙂

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Luke says that after Kylo burned down his temple, he took a handful of his students and fled.

Did he eat them, or what? 🙄 😆

Scaling, retard. My argument is based off scaling. 🙂

Your scaling is based off assumptions. You don’t even have your facts straight dumbass. Go cry in your room aka your parents basement about it you ****ing loser.

Ren doesn't get past Ventress. I have spoken.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
The knights of ren weren’t Luke’s students, they were already a group when Kylo was still studying under Luke.

Your scaling is based off assumptions. You don’t even have your facts straight dumbass. Go cry in your room aka your parents basement about it you ****ing loser.

😆 😆 😆 Your mom and I share the same bedroom, son.

And who cares? Fodder-mooks are still fodder-mooks.

Kylo and none of his loser underlings come anywhere close to even Qui-Gon Jinn.

PT Jedi and Sith shit all over them. ✅

Sabers skills is way too speculative to gauge given that it ALL looks likes shitty swordsmanship going by appearances in every movie. That spinning crap Anakin and Obiwan do in Rots would you get you killed by any decent swordsman. 😂

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I'll have to see something more concrete out of a novelization or comic. Noob Rey getting the better of the dude who beat Darth Vader's ass doesn't bode well though. Not to mention the woman who trained Rey made this same dude look like a chump as well without even officially becoming a jedi. ❌

Then there's the force techniques RoS introduces. The entire reason Anakin F-cking Skywalker went to the darkside was so that he could save Padme from death, right? He didn't even know if the ability existed, but continued doing the Star Wars equivalent of the devil's bidding in the HOPES that there would be a way, right? He's the f-cking chosen one, but the f-cking chosen one has limitations. Sounds legit. Now RoS comes around and it turns out Rey and Kylo have these sorts of abilities with no special training, research or nothing. They're just THAT good. Kind of makes the chosen one look like a cuck and an idiot when you think about it. 🙄

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Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Noob Rey getting the better of the dude who beat Darth Vader's ass doesn't bode well thou

What? Luke was just defending himself and still owned her. She just pulled a lightsaber to a stick fight like a psycho.

First of all, the Knights of Ren weren’t Luke’s students. They’re seen in the Rise of Kylo Ren comic book when Kylo is still a child.

And you said that Rey and Kylo look like padawans so I was assuming you were referring to the choreography. If not, what were you referring to?

Your scaling relies on the assumptions that the knights of ren were Luke’s students, which they weren’t, and that Rey is fodder, which she isn’t. If the knights put up a good fight against Luke in the upcoming comic, that could be a very good scaling for Kylo.

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Choreography? I use scaling just like you do.

The Knights Of Ren were pre-schooler-Padawans that Kylo took with him when he burned down Luke's temple.

Then they grew up into fodder-mooks.

Padawan-Anakin could absolutely slaughter the Knights Of Ren without breaking a sweat.

And again, Kylo's skill is around ESB-Luke at best - he sucks.

Qui-Gon would stomp Kylo easily.

And Dooku or Windu would easily shitstomp Kylo while being blindfolded, with one hand tied behind their back.

All of the PT Jedi and Sith shit all over Kylo.

I mean the Knights of Ren are presumably low tier-Inquisitor level except without lightsabers or lightsaber resistant weapons.

Their weapons are somewhat lightsaber resistant, I think.

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
Did he eat them, or what? 🙄 😆

Apparently he did.

Neither Abrams nor Johnson had any idea on what to do with the Knights of Ren.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I mean the Knights of Ren are presumably low tier-Inquisitor level except without lightsabers or lightsaber resistant weapons.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Apparently he did.

Neither Abrams nor Johnson had any idea on what to do with the Knights of Ren.

Either gets stopped at Maul or Dooku.

Originally posted by Rebel95
First of all, the Knights of Ren weren’t Luke’s students. They’re seen in the Rise of Kylo Ren comic book when Kylo is still a child.

And you said that Rey and Kylo look like padawans so I was assuming you were referring to the choreography. If not, what were you referring to?

Your scaling relies on the assumptions that the knights of ren were Luke’s students, which they weren’t, and that Rey is fodder, which she isn’t. If the knights put up a good fight against Luke in the upcoming comic, that could be a very good scaling for Kylo.

I don't see any reason to assume untrained swordsmen would be superior to men and women with a lifetime of training in a sabers only contest. Being a quarter skywalker probably gives him a chance to overpower a few opponents with the force- but he would need almost a ragdoll level of domination to keep from getting sliced up everytime he crossed sabers with anyone at a master level.

He would also need to KNOW that going in and try to stay out of sabers reach. That really isn't his default style in his fights we see in the movies.

Originally posted by Rebel95
I think originally they were meant to be Luke’s students, but that was retconned. This trilogy was a mess

Seems like it.

And yes, it was a mess.