Originally posted by FrothByte
To be honest, GOT was a good show with some great characters but they had some pretty shitty fight choreography which makes them crap for vs. threads like these.
I have to agree. It always amazed me that a show with such a big budget and high production quality overall had such shitty small-scale fight choreography. Because they weren't too bad at doing large-scale fighting. But the individual melee combat remained consistently terrible throughout the show. And the people being actors isn't really an excuse IMO. The technology and filming techniques to compensate for that have existed for a while now, especially when you have like $10 million budget per episode, or some shit close to that, like they had for the final season.
Geralt takes on and bests magical beasts that are far superior to anyone on the list.
If we remove the plot device struggles from the show, and focus only on his best achievements, Geralt can take on every individual in that list, at once, and beat them all rather easily. He's a legit magical being with super human abilities.
This is simple maths:
-The Hound killed his zombie Mountain brother, sure he died too, but it's a win, ergo +1 Hound
-Zombie Mountian would destroy Geralt and go about his rape-y ways, ergo -1 Geralt
We know that +1 is greater than -1, ergo the Hound wins
You could argue that the Hound gets a score of zero since he died too and that's not a crazy argument, but maths still dictates that 0 is greater than -1
Zombie mountain's armour is made out of styrofoam. The Hound stabbed right through it and it proceeded to fall apart lol.
Strength is arguable (at least, how he compares to Gregor is), but speed is not. Even unamped Geralt can easily parry a crossbow bolt after it was fired. His speed is at a level far beyond the fastest of these characters (Oberyn, Arya, or Dayne), and his strength is comfortably beyond anyone except maybe Gregor Clegane. And honestly, probably even him based on the Striga fight.
It's like the Demon of Dadu said. All these characters are essentially normal humans, with only Sandor and Gregor displaying any superhuman characteristics at all. Geralt is supernatural creature beyond the ken of mortal men and women.
Originally posted by RobtardGoing to disagree here Rob. Geralt is faster, stronger, more skilful, has better damage soak and a Kamehameha style attack.
This is simple maths:-The Hound killed his zombie Mountain brother, sure he died too, but it's a win, ergo +1 Hound
-Zombie Mountian would destroy Geralt and go about his rape-y ways, ergo -1 Geralt
We know that +1 is greater than -1, ergo the Hound wins
You could argue that the Hound gets a score of zero since he died too and that's not a crazy argument, but maths still dictates that 0 is greater than -1
Originally posted by Robtard
Bullshit aside, you think Geralt could take down zombie mountain with his armor, strength, nigh endless stamina and insane damage-soak?Why do you think Geralt is stronger? Human Gregor crushed a skull with his hands, zombie Gregor is stronger.
I dunno. Amped Geralt is pretty strong. We see how strong the Striga is at around the 1:00 mark here. And while it did seem stronger than Geralt, he was able to resist it some, like slamming it at the 1:30 odd mark and resisting it on top of him at 2:18 mark:
There are more strength examples in the second half of the fight (after they smash through the floor), but nothing beyond what's already been shown or mentioned in the thread. That being said, the Mountain is also a beast in terms of strength. Issue is that Geralt is WAY faster than him.
The main thing I personally think Geralt actually has on his side is speed. Because, fun fact; a lot of people seemed to have missed this, but he actually deflects two crossbow bolts in this scene. But the second one is so fast it's extremely easy to let it slip by, at the 0:57 mark, while he is transitioning between enemies:
But if you actually go so far as to use the YouTube player to slow it down to like 0.25, you can see the bolt split apart on impact with his blade.
Originally posted by RobtardIn the Striga fight he demonstrated higher strength than even Zombie!Mountain while also being a lot faster and skillful.
Bullshit aside, you think Geralt could take down zombie mountain with his armor, strength, nigh endless stamina and insane damage-soak?Why do you think Geralt is stronger? Human Gregor crushed a skull with his hands, zombie Gregor is stronger.
Not to mention he has signs -at least Aard, Quen and apparently Yrden have been shown so far- to aid him.