Coronavirus

Originally posted by Surtur
But see they have no room to cry about conservative rallies when they do not social distance at their own. That is the point. If they're gonna gripe about covid guidelines not being followed they should follow them. They don't get a pass cuz the conservatives give even less of a shit.

For instance I know Democrats are more likely to adhere to CDC guidelines then Republicans are. Democrats are more likely to wear masks, more likely to social distance, and less likely to go to larger crowds.

This is why even though there was spreading of the virus during the police brutality protests they weren't super spreader events like conservatives ones were.

Now I will admit that a lot of the election celebration appeared to not follow the guidelines nearly as much and that is concerning. Those may end up being super spreader events.

Originally posted by Newjak
I would also say that these remarks are more indictive of their at home manners as well.

For instance I know Democrats are more likely to adhere to CDC guidelines then Republicans are. Democrats are more likely to wear masks, more likely to social distance, and less likely to go to larger crowds.

This is why even though there was spreading of the virus during the police brutality protests they weren't super spreader events like conservatives ones were.

Now I will admit that a lot of the election celebration appeared to not follow the guidelines nearly as much and that is concerning. Those may end up being super spreader events.

None of that negates that you can't hold protests with zero social distancing and then turn around gripe when others do not follow the guidelines. Okay well you can, this is America people are free to be hypocrites.

The celebrations weren't the only thing. We had months of protests with no social distancing. Months of mayors and governors turning a blind eye to this as well. Only to turn around and target small businesses, etc. Even clamped down on outdoor religious services while just shrugging over the protests.

Originally posted by Surtur
None of that negates that you can't hold protests with zero social distancing and then turn around gripe when others do not follow the guidelines. Okay well you can, this is America people are free to be hypocrites.

The celebrations weren't the only thing. We had months of protests with no social distancing. Months of mayors and governors turning a blind eye to this as well. Only to turn around and target small businesses, etc. Even clamped down on outdoor religious services while just shrugging over the protests.

This would have likely caused a massive violent backlash that would have destroyed hurt more people, gotten more property destroyed, and would have been super spreader events.

After all context matters 😉

And once again those protests were not nearly the spreader events as Trump's rallies were and there is a reason for that fact that shouldn't be ignored.

Originally posted by Newjak
Well my theory is that the mayors and governors knew if they tried to clamp down on the police brutality protests when they were peaceful and overall following the guidelines as much as large crowds can then that would have been viewed as them trying to silence peaceful dissent to police brutality.

This would have likely caused a massive violent backlash that would have destroyed hurt more people, gotten more property destroyed, and would have been super spreader events.

After all context matters 😉

And once again those protests were not nearly the spreader events as Trump's rallies were and there is a reason for that fact that shouldn't be ignored.

And yet: it's hypocritical nonetheless. There is really no way around that fact.

Now I don't care if they wear masks or social distance. It is their choice, but if they aren't going to follow the guidelines the lectures about following the guidelines need to stop.

And once again those protests were not nearly the spreader events as Trump's rallies were and there is a reason for that fact that shouldn't be ignored.

Makes you wonder if protests also had an impact with certain minority groups being disproportionatly affected.....

Originally posted by Newjak
I would also say that these remarks are more indictive of their at home manners as well.

For instance I know Democrats are more likely to adhere to CDC guidelines then Republicans are. Democrats are more likely to wear masks, more likely to social distance, and less likely to go to larger crowds.

This is why even though there was spreading of the virus during the police brutality protests they weren't super spreader events like conservatives ones were.

Now I will admit that a lot of the election celebration appeared to not follow the guidelines nearly as much and that is concerning. Those may end up being super spreader events.

Did you ever say the rioting and looting were super spreader events? I’d bet my last dollar you didnt. Oh Newjack, same old shit from you.

You are one of the biggest hypocrites on this forum, it’s embarrassing you still come here.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Makes you wonder if protests also had an impact with certain minority groups being disproportionatly affected.....

And hell you had covid trackers in NYC being told not to even ask people if they had attended a protest.

And you had health officials in New York saying if protests did become super spreader events the fault was with racism not the protesters. The logic being racist cops were the reason they were protesting.

So see it wouldn't have mattered whether or not the virus spread at these protests So it's gaslighting to try to claim it's about the virus spreading. It's not about that it's about ideology.

A perfect example is the mayor of my own city Chicago attending a large Biden celebration. Defending it by saying it would have happened whether or not she was there and also saying there are times people need to have relief and come together. Except not everybody was relieved about the election results, but she decided the celebration was okay because she agreed with those celebrating.

If Trump had won and you had large crowds gathering to celebrate I can all but guarantee she would have complained even if they all had masks on.

Or look at how those who attended the funeral of John Lewis were exempt from quarantine.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Did you ever say the rioting and looting were super spreader events? I’d bet my last dollar you didnt. Oh Newjack, same old shit from you.

You are one of the biggest hypocrites on this forum, it’s embarrassing you still come here.

Either not following the guidelines is wrong or it is not. It can't be something that is only wrong when there are consequences. It's like saying drunk driving is okay if you manage not to get into an accident, but it's wrong if you crash and kill someone.

Trigger warning, Tim Pool video:

LA Issues Order For 10 MILLION People To Stay Home, Research PULLED Claiming COVID Is Exaggerated

YouTube video

Yikes

Originally posted by Surtur
Either not following the guidelines is wrong or it is not. It can't be something that is only wrong when there are consequences. It's like saying drunk driving is okay if you manage not to get into an accident, but it's wrong if you crash and kill someone.

Notice how he didn’t respond

@Broly I didn't respond because it's a variation of an illogical argument he's been using for awhile now.

I and other people have already pointed out the issues with it multiple times now.

1) Even if it is true and they are hypocrites it doesn't change the validity of what they are saying. In essence he is saying if they smoke they can't say smoking is bad for other people they see starting to smoke. Whether you think it makes them hypocrites or not doesn't change the soundness of the advice. :/

2) You can't ignore the contextual part where the majority of the protests were adhering or trying to adhere to CDC guidelines in some manner.

3) You can't ignore the contextual part where one group of people were protesting police brutality to people just wanting to feed Trump's ego.

They meaning you👆

You would do anything to avoid looking like a hypocrite though.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
They meaning you👆

You would do anything to avoid looking like a hypocrite though.

When all else fails fall back on people who believe the same thing as you for more confirmation bias👆

Weak👆

Originally posted by Newjak
I mean I'm including Robatrd and Old Man Whirly in that others part as I'm pretty sure they've pointed out the same things.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
When all else fails fall back on people who believe the same thing as you for more confirmation bias👆

Weak👆

Who am I falling back on?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Who am I falling back on?

And?

Are you having trouble putting sentences together and just hitting keystrokes?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
And?

Are you having trouble putting sentences together and just hitting keystrokes?