Re: Ozymandias vs Nightwing and Daredevil
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Current Nightwing (Titans) and S3 Daredevil (at his best) take on Niteowl and Rorschach's role in Watchmen's final battle.Can they succeed where their predecessors failed and knock Ozy the phuck out?
Originally posted by h1a8The Netflix series, my man. Watch it, it's quite good.
Well what Titans is the OP referring to? A movie?
And what are Nightwings feats of skill, speed, strength, and reflexes?
Does Nightwing use gadgets or is this h2h?
Originally posted by BrolyBlackI am just. 👆
You are an evil man
Originally posted by h1a8
Well what Titans is the OP referring to? A movie?
And what are Nightwings feats of skill, speed, strength, and reflexes?
Does Nightwing use gadgets or is this h2h?
He's referring to live-action Nightwing from the Titans show that currently has two seasons. And, as of the finale of S2, Nightwing is capable enough that he was able to give a serious Deathstroke a decent fight while on his own (though not quite good enough to actually win). And Deathstroke is depicted as an outright superhuman (both via feats and statements) who can butcher multiple Amazons in melee, who themselves in turn can react to bullets and toss motorcycles around. And as for gear, he wears an extremely durable suit (much tougher than Kevlar, designed by Batman's personal armor guy) and uses taser batons as well as some kind of pulse grenades powerful enough to briefly disorientate Superboy.
And then he is paired with Daredevil who, at his best (as per the OP), is strong enough to send people flying back and bust cinder blocks with his attacks, hang with people who can shoot bullets out of the air (Iron Fist), take hits from people like Fisk (who can punch holes in walls) and thrown objects from Bullseye (who could oneshot kill people even as a child with things like baseballs) and is skilled enough that he can fight off (and mostly hold the upper hand against) two centuries-old Fingers of the Hand at once.
Well with the gear, grenades and stuff I see the team winning. If h2h then I might see this differently. I'll try to watch the show before making judgment. But based off the feats you gave then that's not enough (if this is strictly h2h).
I don't use faulty ABC logic. Why? Because characters can perform at drastically different levels in different scenes. Feats are not transitive. Just because character A has a good feat and character B does well against A doesn't give B character A's feats.
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't use faulty ABC logic. Why? Because characters can perform at drastically different levels in different scenes. Feats are not transitive. Just because character A has a good feat and character B does well against A doesn't give B character A's feats.
I would rather take screen feats from the actual writers than your interpretation of what their "intent" was or of what you consider "common sense". But time-waster trolls are gonna waste time and troll.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I would rather take screen feats from the actual writers than your interpretation of what their "intent" was or of what you consider "common sense". But time-waster trolls are gonna waste time and troll.
You can do that. But stop spouting faulty logic about A's best feats and what B did to A to imply that B possess the capacity to achieve A's best feats. You should know that fictional characters fluctuate much greater (more inconsistent) than real life beings.
Italics is solid logic.
Bold is faulty logic.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He's referring to live-action Nightwing from the Titans show that currently has two seasons. And, as of the finale of S2, Nightwing is capable enough that he was able to give a serious Deathstroke a decent fight while on his own (though not quite good enough to actually win). And Deathstroke is depicted as an outright superhuman (both via feats and statements) who can butcher multiple Amazons in melee, who themselves in turn can react to bullets and toss motorcycles around. And as for gear, he wears an extremely durable suit (much tougher than Kevlar, designed by Batman's personal armor guy) and uses taser batons as well as some kind of pulse grenades powerful enough to briefly disorientate Superboy.And then he is paired with Daredevil who, at his best (as per the OP), is strong enough to send people flying back and bust cinder blocks with his attacks , hang with people who can shoot bullets out of the air (Iron Fist), take hits from people like Fisk (who can punch holes in walls) and thrown objects from Bullseye (who could oneshot kill people even as a child with things like baseballs) and is skilled enough that he can fight off (and mostly hold the upper hand against) two centuries-old Fingers of the Hand at once.