MCU Hulk vs. Shazam/Aquaman

Started by quanchi1127 pages

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Lies, He had help,Stormbreaker saved him. Without Stormbreaker he would have died.
He also got electrocuted by grandmasters collar chip device lol.
Why are you even bringing him up. Hulk is no Thor. Thor would murder hulk.
He still resisted a Star. That axe healed him. Thor would beat the hulk with the axe but I bring him up because the Hulk is stronger and more durable. Thor is more skilled and has better powers. The chip is a plot device like knite.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Black manta> hulk buster
Based on fanboyism and nothing more.

Based on allowing him keeping up with aquaman, who has better showings than hulk in every aspect

Originally posted by quanchi112
He still resisted a Star. That axe healed him. Thor would beat the hulk with the axe but I bring him up because the Hulk is stronger and more durable. Thor is more skilled and has better powers. The chip is a plot device like knite.

If Some plot device had saved ironman when he snapped his finger ,would you have said that he resisted the power of the infinity gauntlet?

No. Hulk is not more durable than Thor.
Hulk can't even handle lightning.
Thor beats Hulk without Stormbreaker.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Based on allowing him keeping up with aquaman, who has better showings than hulk in every aspect
That is not addressing the issue. We see regular humans knock him on his ass. Black Manta could hurt him and had the power to end himwhereas the Hulk tore through plenty of Hulkbuster armor in a much more impressive display of strength.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
If Some plot device had saved ironman when he snapped his finger ,would you have said that he resisted the power of the infinity gauntlet?

No. Hulk is not more durable than Thor.
Hulk can't even handle lightning.
Thor beats Hulk without Stormbreaker.

I would say a plot device did so.

Yes, the movie made it clear the only avenger able to survive a snap was of the Avengers was Hulk with Thor in the room. Thor has never beaten the Hulk with his weapon or with lightning. You can pretend all you want.

And was still knocked up unconscious by Tony stark, a normal ass human being

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
And was still knocked up unconscious by Tony stark, a normal ass human being
Hulk was confused distracted and in the armor he kod him. Tony Stark tech>> Atlantean tech.

Based on?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Based on?
Hulk coming out of the hex on him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I would say a plot device did so.

Yes, the movie made it clear the only avenger able to survive a snap was of the Avengers was Hulk with Thor in the room. Thor has never beaten the Hulk with his weapon or with lightning. You can pretend all you want.

So a plot device saved Thor too. You get the point?

Nope. Thor just wasn't in a good shape, but Thor also said he was the strongest avenger and no one argued , banner didn't even refute it.
Lol grandmaster knew Thor could have ended the hulk, that's why he stopped Thor. Hulk was helpless looking at his face,lol that scene was hilarious. And Thor wasn't even trying to fight hulk, however when he got serious violent hulk became a girl.

But you agreed Thor beats Hulk with Stormbreaker.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
So a plot device saved Thor too. You get the point?

Nope. Thor just wasn't in a good shape, but Thor also said he was the strongest avenger and no one argued , banner didn't even refute it.
Lol grandmaster knew Thor could have ended the hulk, that's why he stopped Thor. Hulk was helpless looking at his face,lol that scene was hilarious. And Thor wasn't even trying to fight hulk, however when he got serious violent hulk became a girl.

But you agreed Thor beats Hulk with Stormbreaker.

No, since Thor and his regular gear is not a plot device outside of his abilities.

Banner said no one else could survive. Point blank. It takes two of Thors arms to hold one of the Hulks. You can pretend Thor is stronger when the films gave blatantly told us otherwise. How much sense would it make for Thor to not defeat the hulk with two attempts if he is stronger, more durable, more skilled, and with better powers?

GM is not all knowing and did not take the risk. Thor did not beat him in avengers one either. You can pretend him not winning a fight is just strength based but it just makes you look foolish tbh.

So how is hulk buster better than black manta's suit if he couldn't even take hulk down? Seems like faulty logic

hulk one shots them at the same time

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, since Thor and his regular gear is not a plot device outside of his abilities.

Banner said no one else could survive. Point blank. It takes two of Thors arms to hold one of the Hulks. You can pretend Thor is stronger when the films gave blatantly told us otherwise. How much sense would it make for Thor to not defeat the hulk with two attempts if he is stronger, more durable, more skilled, and with better powers?

GM is not all knowing and did not take the risk. Thor did not beat him in avengers one either. You can pretend him not winning a fight is just strength based but it just makes you look foolish tbh.


Ah so you agree that without Stormbreaker Thor would have died then?

Yeah and Banner included himself among the "no one".

So you feel hulk should at least possess one advantage right?
Strength maybe debatable but durability is not at all.

It was clear that Thor had the upper hand in that fight even when holding back, how you didn't see that is beyond me.
So what makes you say that Hulk is stronger than Thor?

Thor would solo Shazam/Aquaman.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So how is hulk buster better than black manta's suit if he couldn't even take hulk down? Seems like faulty logic
Hulk tore threw it but it could reform which was not the same for black manta. Hulk is on another level of physicality than water boy.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Ah so you agree that without Stormbreaker Thor would have died then?

Yeah and Banner included himself among the "no one".

So you feel hulk should at least possess one advantage right?
Strength maybe debatable but durability is not at all.

It was clear that Thor had the upper hand in that fight even when holding back, how you didn't see that is beyond me.
So what makes you say that Hulk is stronger than Thor?

That is not the point. It is speculative but he still resisted a Star whereas a rig kod Superman.

No he implied he was the only one who could survive which he was correct. Ffs we see him survive you idiot.

It makes no sense for a character to not go down when he does not have one advantage. None. Durability and strength. Hands down. EG proved it once and for all.

Except am has better feats than hulk, so...

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Except am has better feats than hulk, so...
Such as? Hulk survived the stones.