Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's a good point. The blast directly holds off a universal level power, yet is basically being lowballed due to potential collateral damage.
Nope, not using collateral damage, sorry to burst your bubble before you try and turn it back on me.
The blast is DIRECTLY said to be able to shatter continents. Not as a byproduct, as direct damage.
So no, not collateral damage 🙂
Collateral would be arguing Thor is hurt/strained by the effort of doing so, lol.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's a good point. The blast directly holds off a universal level power, yet is basically being lowballed due to potential collateral damage.
This goes back to the Superman vs World Forger showing where a small continental size dent happened to the planet after punching WF.
I agree. Not really the same.
For the most part though I think energy blasts should be treated differently from physical attacks.... Especially considering the source of this energy. This was lightning from mystical/cosmic/godly sources.
The way it may or can affect objects like continents is ultimately irrelevant here.
Thor has hurt extremely powerful beings like Chaos King with his lightning even at his standard unamped levels.
But I do also see where Saint's coming from
Given the size of the blast and the strain on Thor’s face, though, the author strongly implies that’s around that blast’s limit in my opinion.
If Superman slammed into the planet with exertion on his face and tension in his muscles, and the writer remarks that the hero does so with “enough power to level a skyscraper,” my guess is that’s where the author pegs Superman’s upper strength limit.
Who knows, though? Perhaps that Superman author would prove otherwise in a subsequent issue.
Same thing for Thor.
Comics are notoriously inconsistent about these things: Not every author sees Thor as an Earth buster or whatever. Most authors go by average depictions of the guy rather than battle board favorite high-end feats, which put Thor nowhere near as high in power as a chunk of fans insist he is.
Same thing happens with Superman ... and every other character there is.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
But I do also see where Saint's coming fromGiven the size of the blast and the strain on Thor’s face, though, the author strongly implies that’s around that blast’s limit in my opinion.
If Superman slammed into the planet with exertion on his face and tension in his muscles, and the writer remarks that the hero does so with “enough power to level a skyscraper,” my guess is that’s where the author pegs Superman’s upper strength limit.
Who knows, though? Perhaps that Superman author would prove otherwise in a subsequent issue.
Same thing for Thor.Comics are notoriously inconsistent about these things: Not every author sees Thor as an Earth buster or whatever. Most authors go by average depictions of the guy rather than battle board favorite high-end feats, which put Thor nowhere near as high in power as a chunk of fans insist he is.
Same thing happens with Superman ... and every other character there is.
This.
And actually, the difference then between Herald Thor and other characters, is that Herald Thor doesn't have other showings to fall back on. If I have Superman drawn with exertion on his face as he struggles to lift a boat, but also have other showings where he's juggling planets or whatever....then yeah, that boat is an outlier.
But this showing is pretty much his ONLY showing firing the PC with Mjolnir etc. THAT'S why I'm harping on about it.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilPretty much.
But I do also see where Saint's coming fromGiven the size of the blast and the strain on Thor’s face, though, the author strongly implies that’s around that blast’s limit in my opinion.
If Superman slammed into the planet with exertion on his face and tension in his muscles, and the writer remarks that the hero does so with “enough power to level a skyscraper,” my guess is that’s where the author pegs Superman’s upper strength limit.
Who knows, though? Perhaps that Superman author would prove otherwise in a subsequent issue.
Same thing for Thor.Comics are notoriously inconsistent about these things: Not every author sees Thor as an Earth buster or whatever. Most authors go by average depictions of the guy rather than battle board favorite high-end feats, which put Thor nowhere near as high in power as a chunk of fans insist he is.
Same thing happens with Superman ... and every other character there is.
He also used a lightning blast and made amped Galactus his son.
Plus the range of that lightning is ridiculous. It gave pause to a universal(possibly multiversal) threat. Shattering continents is basically a throw away line. It's ultimately irrelevant.
Anyways, story aint over... Wonder wut happens next.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I agree. Not really the same.For the most part though I think energy blasts should be treated differently from physical attacks.... Especially considering the source of this energy. This was lightning from mystical/cosmic/godly sources.
The way it may or can affect objects like continents is ultimately irrelevant here.Thor has hurt extremely powerful beings like Chaos King with his lightning even at his standard unamped levels.
Sounds good in my opinion. Not every author will agree, though. Just the way it is.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
But I do also see where Saint's coming fromGiven the size of the blast and the strain on Thor’s face, though, the author strongly implies that’s around that blast’s limit in my opinion.
If Superman slammed into the planet with exertion on his face and tension in his muscles, and the writer remarks that the hero does so with “enough power to level a skyscraper,” my guess is that’s where the author pegs Superman’s upper strength limit.
Who knows, though? Perhaps that Superman author would prove otherwise in a subsequent issue.
Same thing for Thor.Comics are notoriously inconsistent about these things: Not every author sees Thor as an Earth buster or whatever. Most authors go by average depictions of the guy rather than battle board favorite high-end feats, which put Thor nowhere near as high in power as a chunk of fans insist he is.
Same thing happens with Superman ... and every other character there is.
This panel contradicts him straining: