Time to prove it: Doomsday speed fts vs Elites

You don't argue something when it's true; you dispute it. Doesn't make a difference, but still.

Originally posted by cdtm
Iron Fist.

Well, he should stop doing that.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... so you're basically saying my post reminds you of a turd? That's what I got from your reply. If I didnt have him blocked, I would show you what I mean. The showing isnt to downplay Superman speed since I did rank him as an elite here but it is to show that Superman have commented on people speed on numerous of occasions. People that isnt high end speedsters like the flash.

...No. I'm saying it's rich you complaining about anyone else lowballing when you're arguably the biggest committer of that offence on this site.

And yes, cherry picking the way you were doing is lowballing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You don't argue something when it's true; you dispute it. Doesn't make a difference, but still.

Well, he should stop doing that.

...No. I'm saying it's rich you complaining about anyone else lowballing when you're arguably the biggest committer of that offence on this site.

And yes, cherry picking the way you were doing is lowballing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You don't argue something when it's true; you dispute it. Doesn't make a difference, but still.

Well, he should stop doing that.

...No. I'm saying it's rich you complaining about anyone else lowballing when you're arguably the biggest committer of that offence on this site.

And yes, cherry picking the way you were doing is lowballing.

That's not the only showing though. I literally said there are other showings that match this. Similar showings. Yes, Doomsday is quick but I dont think he is Superman quick, let alone Flash quick. Doomsday even when he is allowed to do it, isnt evacuating a city before a nuke completely goes off. Lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Let me pull a Darksaint here. Difference is, this is Superman and not Hulk, so I will probably get banned. Anyways, this era Superman did the same exact thing against Shadow Dragon.

"I missed". "I missed again but I doubled my speed...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111151571/5000949-2443388914-36636.jpg

Blitzed...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111151571/5000952-4239321019-36636.jpg

"I've never fought someone who's faster than me". "Missed again"...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111151571/5000953-9350172372-36636.jpg

Identical scenes. Same Superman. I'm not buying it with Doomsday OR Shadowdragon speed. Think this happened with Lobo as well.

Not remotely the same, but ok

Originally posted by JBL
So you think DD is in the same speed class as WW, Gladiator, Superman and flash?

Bar Flash, yes but more importantly, DC does. He's in Superman's reflex speed class, and generally always is due to power creep. That, by extension, puts him in the class of the others. Bar Flash, obviously.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not the only showing though. I literally said there are other showings that match this. Similar showings. Yes, Doomsday is quick but I dont think he is Superman quick, let alone Flash quick. Doomsday even when he is allowed to do it, isnt evacuating a city before a nuke completely goes off. Lol.

What you just described is a combination of reflex and travel speed. The latter of which, Doomsday doesn't have on that level.

So your examples are flawed.

A bit more detail as to why Carver is trolling when he says he's 'pulling a DarkSaint'.

Superman has that showing with Shadow Dragon, agreed.

Does Superman have ANY other showings telling us he can be faster, yes or no? In his entire career, does he have showings to say that was his top speed?

Now with Doomsday. Do we have ANY other showings telling us hsi fight with Superman was a slow/fast outlier, yes or no?

Originally posted by carver9
Time to prove it. Is Doomsday as fast as an all out:

Superman
Flash
Gladiator
Captain Marvel
Supergirl

No statements used here. Let's use had core proof on his speed.

1. Can we scale and use writer's intent? It can be proven that DD was meant (by writer's intentions) to be at least as fast as Superman. Superman stated that he moved so fast that he couldn't respond. The writer had a character state that DD was faster than flash.

2. DD traveled over a mile before DS could manage to turn around. And DS has superhuman level speed and reactions.

3. DD was so fast that he seemingly hit 5 members of the justice league simultaneously (Superman included).

4. DD is Born kryptonian and has the strength, durability, and speed power set beyond them.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Can we scale and use writer's intent? It can be proven that DD was meant (by writer's intentions) to be at least as fast as Superman. Superman stated that he moved so fast that he couldn't respond. The writer had a character state that DD was faster than flash.

2. DD traveled over a mile before DS could manage to turn around. And DS has superhuman level speed and reactions.

3. DD was so fast that he seemingly hit 5 members of the justice league simultaneously (Superman included).

4. DD is Born kryptonian and has the strength, durability, and speed power set beyond them.

DD is not born Kryptonian.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
DD is not born Kryptonian.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
He is like Daxamite, His cellular matrix is similar to Kryptonian

Where is this shown?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where is this shown?

He's not though. Bertron specifically said he was not of that planet. He uses solar rads for nourishment but that's it.

Well, Yeah He isn't a kryptonian but certainly he was come from a species that genetically similar to kryptonian
It doesn't matter though, Since the comics prove it time to time Doomsday is on Superman level's speed

Originally posted by carver9
And none of this proves that he is anywhere close to Supermans best speed showings or anyone else that is mentioned in this thread. He just isnt. He is quick for his size but he is nowhere near Flash or Superman levels of speed.

So when the writer had Superman saying this:

Do you honestly think the intent was for Supes to be utilizing anything less than his full speed(++), given the stakes? Try to put your bias aside for a moment and think about that.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not the only showing though. I literally said there are other showings that match this. Similar showings. Yes, Doomsday is quick but I dont think he is Superman quick, let alone Flash quick. Doomsday even when he is allowed to do it, isnt evacuating a city before a nuke completely goes off. Lol.

Neither is Karate Kid.

Yet he can indisputably keep up with Superboy.

Originally posted by -Pr-
JFC...

Do it!

Originally posted by Galan007
Guy: "So fast I didn't even see him move!":
https://i.imgur.com/nJf3vPF.jpg

Booster: "He's faster than Flash!":
https://i.imgur.com/uXXEbKw.jpg

Maxima: "How could he move so fast?":
https://i.imgur.com/Gy7ZSU3.jpg

Superman: "Have to move faster...match Doomsday's speed...Or I'm done!":
https://i.imgur.com/3ro2NOq.jpg

But clearly the intent was for Doomsday to be moving at ceiling fan level. 👆

Originally posted by carver9
And none of this proves that he is anywhere close to Supermans best speed showings or anyone else that is mentioned in this thread. He just isnt. He is quick for his size but he is nowhere near Flash or Superman levels of speed.

Superman was literally on the verge of dying there, moments from breaking limits to his power that he never accessed in his entire life and specifically - specifically - points out that he has problems keeping up with Doomsday's speed [all the while various characters like Maxima et all are shocked at his speed, and he is even compared to Flash himself] -- yet this proves DD is nowhere near him and only 'fast for his size'?

Is this a thread made just to prove how far you can troll and never get banned?

I love how Doomsday is essentially Ben Grimm in relative speed.

People are ignoring the entire story - which is that Superman, one of the top - if not the top, but I'll let you guys debate that- physical herald bricks in comics, was physically beaten to death

No red sun rads
No magic
No weakness exploits

Just straight up beaten to death in a physical fistfight.

How stupid, how much CIS/CIP do people think Superman have?

Doomsday looks what, Kodiak/polar bear size? And they're quick for their size. Is that the speed level Doomsday is at?

Wait, so a thread was made primarily about Thor speed but when I make a thread about Doomsday speed, its ban worthy? Then the debates that went on in that thread saying Thor doesnt even have super human speeds but I again make a thread with Doomsday, its trolling, bashing, etc...

Do I really need to post the thread here showing what was said in that thread. Remain civil people and stop being so bias.

Hmmmm.

That Thor thread was backed up by numerous scans specifically comparing Thor's best speed feats from his respect threads.....with street tiers.

Plus numerous scans of Thor being outreacted and blitzed by street tiers.

Do people have scans of Doomsday being blitzed by street tiers? All I've seen so far are scans of Doomsday blitzing and fighting heralds.