Originally posted by SquallX
One of the Dumbest things I’ve ever read in my life.Do you even know how kinetic energy works? The faster you go, the faster you hit or impact with other things.
Does it ever occurred to you that DD might just be that tough?
Originally posted by -Pr-
That is a hell of a claim to make.
No.. Because I already explained why in that comic doomsday got punch by superman and went flying and there was a time Superman staggered doomsday.
When he punched that fast he walk through it like water.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No.. Because I already explained why in that comic doomsday got punch by superman and went flying and there was a time Superman staggered doomsday.
When he punched that fast he walk through it like water.
Or, you could take the example that trying to punch someone a lot, really quickly would just generally not do as much damage as punching them really hard once.
It doesn't mean you're less strong. Just that you're attacking differently.
It's a massive leap to say that Superman is weaker the faster he goes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Or, you could take the example that trying to punch someone a lot, really quickly would just generally not do as much damage as punching them really hard once.It doesn't mean you're less strong. Just that you're attacking differently.
It's a massive leap to say that Superman is weaker the faster he goes.
Its obvious You trade SOME power for speed when You throw multiple punches in that way. A brute isn't getting the FULL force (due to Distance and Timing) as One Wallop:
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It is, I think a claim could be generally made that the insane physical (pun) strength of Superheroes in general, is usually superior to feats involving real-world physical equations like - Mass x Acceleration or E=MC2.
Oh, they are. Definitely.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Problem is, Doomsday took thousands of strikes from Supes pretty well, while single strikes or simple combos have had much more of an effect on him.So yeah, to quote Grodd... swift, but still soft vin
Yup. And it's bad writing to boot.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Its obvious You trade SOME power for speed when You throw multiple punches in that way. A brute isn't getting the FULL force (due to Distance and Timing) as One Wallop:
Right, so how does that support your statement when things like the WF punch exist?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
That's ONE big Punch from a Huge Distance. That's THE point. A Thousand of those little punches wouldn't of had the same affect
It's one punch thrown when travelling at extreme velocity, which matches up with the whole "the faster you go, the more mass you have" thing.
I'm still not seeing how that makes Superman slower the faster he goes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's one punch thrown when travelling at extreme velocity, which matches up with the whole "the faster you go, the more mass you have" thing.I'm still not seeing how that makes Superman slower the faster he goes.
You're not applying Distance attained to achieve THAT power, It was a Build up. That's Wayyy different then throwing multiple punches from a Standstill power
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're not applying Distance attained to achieve THAT power, It was a Build up. That's Wayyy different then throwing multiple punches from a Standstill power
Firstly, I realise I typo'd and meant "stronger" not "slower".
Right, so if he's not "going faster" then how is he losing strength?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvillol at least give credit to Whirly for giving you this idea.
You're not applying Distance attained to achieve THAT power, It was a Build up. That's Wayyy different then throwing multiple punches from a Standstill power
We’re not comparing jabs vs an all out uppercut.
Superman can do both at super speed with completely different results.
But this is irrelevant because you claimed
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
When superman moves fast his strength declines.
Tell us how his strength declines the faster he moves.
Speed is a part of strength, actually. Acceleration requires more energy just like your car burns more fuel when you floor it. The stronger you are, the more explosive you can be. DD tanking thousands of punches from Superman is just bad writing, because the faster he punches, the more devastating the blow would be.
That's my take on it as a strength athlete and former kickboxer.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Firstly, I realise I typo'd and meant "stronger" not "slower".Right, so if he's not "going faster" then how is he losing strength?
just like a punch in a fight you can give up power for speed
Same comic, but he punched slower he was able to engage slow twitching muscles. You can not sustain fast twitching muscles for a extended time
Originally posted by Diesldude
lol at least give credit to Whirly for giving you this idea.We’re not comparing jabs vs an all out uppercut.
Superman can do both at super speed with completely different results.But this is irrelevant because you claimed
Tell us how his strength declines the faster he moves.
Yeah No what is when HE'S in combat he scarfaces strength for speed. He goes from aerobic to anaerobic WHICH slows lowers his punching power. That's not disputable
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Common writing in superhero books.Barrage of punches will never be as powerful as a single haymaker, lol.
I mean, there is a real world argument to justify some of it... but when it starts getting in to thousands of punches in the space of seconds... that's just dumb.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
just like a punch in a fight you can give up power for speedSame comic, but he punched slower he was able to engage slow twitching muscles. You can not sustain fast twitching muscles for a extended time
I'm genuinely not trying to be rude when I say this, but I honestly don't know what argument you're making anymore. Mind elaborating some?
Originally posted by -Pr-
I mean, there is a real world argument to justify some of it... but when it starts getting in to thousands of punches in the space of seconds... that's just dumb.I'm genuinely not trying to be rude when I say this, but I honestly don't know what argument you're making anymore. Mind elaborating some?
There are two different type of muscles you engage when doing activities. Slow and fast twitch muscles.
You can not sustain power in your fast twitching muscles but you can keep the speed.
You can sustain power in slower twitching muscles for longer periods.
The longer you punch the lower your power.
Its kinesiology
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I do love how RL biology is being used for a Kryptonian.When Superman and Doomsday shake the Earth with their deathblows, are they using fast or slow twitch muscles?
What does 'slow twitch' mean when their owner is able to rebuild the entire moon in the space of a conversation?
I'm using kinesiology because when superman doesn't have solar rays to boost him he bleeds and function are identical to humans 🤔