Dream (DC) vs Beyonder

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Originally posted by MrMind
dc cosmics are seriously underrated here

in comicvine endless>beyonder, molecule man etc

This convinced me that A Beyonder stomps.

deft Senior Member

Beyonder is quintillionS times more powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. He stomps.

MrMind Senior Member

buncha traitors

let me know when beyonder can perform multiversal creation, twice.

deft Senior Member

Spidey, Wolverine and IIRC Doom recreated the multiverse with the Beyonder powers.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by MrMind
no, dream (morpheus and daniel) has both made/remade the entire creation

something beyonder has never done

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/11139/111393708/7034642-9663239148-Bq9qX.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/11139/111393708/7034641-6285834578-psCha.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/11115/111152821/7016246-1.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/11115/111152821/6996076-9.jpg

part of his stories has transcended the book of destiny that chain the entire dc creation
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11115/111152821/6996065-8.jpg

DOE wins via superior scaling and cosmology

On top of this, the Dreamstone/Materioptikon has been used to manifest an infinite number of alternate realities:
https://i.imgur.com/Xdrgz92.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZJpvNM1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/AVe7rdU.jpg

Doctor Destiny also stated that the Dreamstone had the power to effect all of continuity:
https://i.imgur.com/kjmrv8G.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IT7FoPn.jpg

This is important because the Dreamstone is just a piece of Morpheus's essence:
https://i.imgur.com/ILs8tJr.jpg

Speaks to the level that Dream can operate on.

wxyz Restricted
Originally posted by zopzop
Beyonder erases him from the multiverse.
Sin I AM Madame Mort
Originally posted by zopzop

That's Spiderman with the Beyonder's power. Beyonder wins.

If he was god how could he possibly lose his power so weird

carver9 Senior Member

Because its Doom.

Sin I AM Madame Mort

I get that but its lame

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by zopzop

That's Spiderman with the Beyonder's power. Beyonder wins.

That's non canon.

8swords Senior Member

forum rules says this should be beyonder current not the SW one right? pretty sure dream wins this easily.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's non canon.

I think it was mentioned in the newer handbook entries too.
Originally posted by 8swords
forum rules says this should be beyonder current not the SW one right? pretty sure dream wins this easily.

That's the thing, the majority of the Beyonder's feats and fights from SW and SWII are still canon to him after the retcon including his erasing and restoring Death across the multiverse.

deft Senior Member

On panel as well, like when Doom stealed the Beyonder's powers:

https://imgur.com/a6wLpBP

Spider-Man Secret Wars was destined to be canon.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by zopzop
I think it was mentioned in the newer handbook entries too.

That's the thing, the majority of the Beyonder's feats and fights from SW and SWII are still canon to him after the retcon including his erasing and restoring Death across the multiverse.


Originally posted by abhilegend

This is an all ages comic and Paul Tobin himself informed that All Ages comics are not bound by code of continuity.

https://blog.tfaw.com/2010/12/06/paul-tobin-tells-all-about-spider-girl-marvel-adventures/

Impediment Endless

Has anyone even read Sandman and understands the powers of the Endless?