watch ROTS all the evidence is there that Sidious threw the fight against Mace in order to turn Anakin
1. he kets Anakin tell the council who he is
2. he goads Anakin telepathically about his wife dying moments before the Jedi confront hime
3. hes able to kill two Jedi before Mace can even react and killed another while duelling them both so hes clearly faster than Mace here
4. at one point he has mace dead to right at blade point and allows him to recover
5. the moment Sidious' blade gets kicked out of his hand and he starts backpedaling from Mace is the exact moment Anakin walks into visual range
6. often overlooked is that Mace actually wanted to arrest Palpatine at first, only AFTER Sidious' lightning barrage did Mace decide to kill him outright which is why Sidious pressed the attack, in order to push Anakin into a right now choice
taking the novel into account, Sidious had set up audio recording once the Council confronted him in order to set them up, the entire thing was clearly a set up to accomplish two things; force Anakins decision make the Jedi look like aggressors looking to overthrow an elected leader
Originally posted by Scizard
Why is that even a thing. Kenobi is struggling in the entire fight and then Anakin underestimates Kenobi because he's gone insane, it was always very clear to me.
Struggling?
His fighting style is all about defense, doesn't mean he was struggling.
Hell, he even matched Anakin in the Force.
Originally posted by relentless1All of that makes sense.
watch ROTS all the evidence is there that Sidious threw the fight against Mace in order to turn Anakin1. he kets Anakin tell the council who he is
2. he goads Anakin telepathically about his wife dying moments before the Jedi confront hime
3. hes able to kill two Jedi before Mace can even react and killed another while duelling them both so hes clearly faster than Mace here
4. at one point he has mace dead to right at blade point and allows him to recover
5. the moment Sidious' blade gets kicked out of his hand and he starts backpedaling from Mace is the exact moment Anakin walks into visual range
6. often overlooked is that Mace actually wanted to arrest Palpatine at first, only AFTER Sidious' lightning barrage did Mace decide to kill him outright which is why Sidious pressed the attack, in order to push Anakin into a right now choice
taking the novel into account, Sidious had set up audio recording once the Council confronted him in order to set them up, the entire thing was clearly a set up to accomplish two things; force Anakins decision make the Jedi look like aggressors looking to overthrow an elected leader
But what about Lucas' statement saying that Mace won the fight?
Originally posted by relentless1
GL says Mace "overpowers" Palpatine but in the same breath goes on to describe Sidious feigning weakness iirc his quote as I can't seem to find it verbatim anywhere right now
Could just mean he let himself get overpowered. I mean, the scene was filmed a bunch of times, each time showing Palpy taking out all the masters more quickly. In fact, the novel even says that Palpatine's lightning was "too much for Vaapad." He could have blasted them all with lightning before they even pulled out their sabers considering he can read their minds and "forsee" the future. The intention seems pretty clear to me, Palpy let Windu win.
Originally posted by ZentrexNo, he was defeated then feigned weakness to manipulate Anakin.
Yeah, he says that he overpowered him by kicking his saber out the window, and then he started feigning weakness when Anakin arrived.Could just mean he let himself get overpowered. I mean, the scene was filmed a bunch of times, each time showing Palpy taking out all the masters more quickly. In fact, the novel even says that Palpatine's lightning was "too much for Vaapad." He could have blasted them all with lightning before they even pulled out their sabers considering he can read their minds and "forsee" the future. The intention seems pretty clear to me, Palpy let Windu win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was defeated then feigned weakness to manipulate Anakin.
Originally posted by JediMaster97
If I remember the quote correctly Lucas said Palpatine "exaggerated" his weakness, implying he was indeed somewhat weak in that moment, not just pretending.