Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
You keep saying that. Which of her feats objectively shows her being faster or more agile? Shows her being faster than a guy that can flip between individual tracer rounds being fired at point blank? Post them. And that's not even getting into Pete's feats from other films.And she has a healing factor with one feat of healing a cut, IIRC. Not bad. But by no means some insurmountable advantage.
Superman would casually punch Alita's head off her body before she even knew what was happening, so please don't try and compare her to him.
But okay. Here we go. This guy breaks down some numbers for the bullet train feat at around 1:50:
You used this showing against Peter to claim he got his ass kicked. So, post a quantifiable screen feat for Alita that shows she can survive that kind of impact head on. Post an actual instance where she took and survived a hit that was objectively comparable to that one. Because, otherwise, as I said, she wouldn't even have made it to the final FFH battle.
How did you draw a conclusion that I was saying she was as fast as superman, when I clearly stated that Spidermans Sense would not stop him from being tagged from someone faster than him.
Its way more of a healing factor than Spiderman, who has to get stitched up.
Bottom line she has healing factor, thats a done deal.
Also you keep g
Since you have not seen Alita, then I will postpone this debate until you watch the movie as there is no point in debating further. I dont debate off youtube clips.
I will just leave this here so you can see just a fraction of her power
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
How did you draw a conclusion that I was saying she was as fast as superman, when I clearly stated that Spidermans Sense would not stop him from being tagged from someone faster than him.Its way more of a healing factor than Spiderman, who has to get stitched up.
Bottom line she has healing factor, thats a done deal.
Also you keep g
Since you have not seen Alita, then I will postpone this debate until you watch the movie as there is no point in debating further. I dont debate off youtube clips.
I will just leave this here so you can see just a fraction of her power
Dude, you literally brought Superman as a placeholder for Alita vs Spider-Man's Spider-Sense. So, either you are comparing them, or you are trying to strawman my position. Because I never at any point said that Spider-Sense is an automatic counter for any speed advantage. Obviously, if one guy is essentially an actual speedster the Spider-Sense will only go so far. That's not the case here. You have yet to convince me that Alita has any speed advantage at all. And that's not even considering Spider-Man's webbing and wings and things that further adds to his mobility.
If a healing factor was an insta-win then Deadpool or Wolverine would never lose a forum fight. Healing factors can be overcome. We don't even know how far hers extend. Can she regenerate large portions of her body? Limbs? Or just heal bones and cuts, punctures etc.?
And I have seen Alita. Which is why I am asking you to post the scenes you are referring to. Because I don't recall any showings (not the bar fight, not her alley fight against that big main henchman guy or their later fight, the flashbacks, or the roller arena battle) to suggests she is so much faster and more agile as you are making her out to be. I am fully willing to admit that maybe there is a detail I might have missed, hence me asking. Because the burden of proof is on you to supply the evidence for your claim.
So, again, post the feats that depict Alita as so much faster and more agile than Peter. And then post the feats that show her being able to survive the fight where Peter got hit by the bullet train, the one where you said he got his ass kicked by illusions.
I didn't ignore anything. You claimed she is faster and more agile, even implying a significant difference by bringing up Superman. That clip does not show any speed or agility advantage of the magnitude you implied, especially when put next to Spider-Man's "tingle" scene I posted. Nor does that scene show her taking a hit comparable to a speeding bullet train or dealing with illusions like Peter had to during the fight in question, which was what was actually causing him problems. Until that happens, I agree, we're done here. Because at no point did I actually claim that Peter was faster. That was KingD. All I did was question your claim of Alita being so.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Ok simply put. Spider-Man got his ass kicked the entire time by featless holographic dronesAlita stomped out top tier assassins and bounty hunters that had real reputations.
Yeah, totally featless. Not like they were produced by Stark-tech, had literally the entire world fooled with the holograms (to the point that Beck was being toted as the new Iron Man and even had Fury's Skrull agents following his lead) and was shown dealing large scale damage to the environment (wrecking a bell tower, collapsing a ferris wheel, turning cars to molten slag etc) with their weapons during every encounter. /sarcasm
So, it's fine to use reputations if it's the bounty hunters but not if it's Stark, who actually has multiple films worth of feats establishing his technical achievements? And the drones have an entire film showcasing both their weapons and holographic abilities, even ignoring the Stark factor. Well, if that's how it is then there really is no point continuing this further.