Obama inherited a recession which began 3 months before he took office, and republicunts blamed it on him. now, in year 4 of Trump's presidency. YEAR FOUR, after he took office and disbanded the pandemic first response team and made cuts to the CDC, somehow it's once again all Obama's fault. You're clowns
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
How is this Trumps fault?
Held a gun to Xi's head and forced him to lie, keep wet blood markets open. Also forced the WHO to lie and cuck for China.
Also forced democrats to downplay the virus even after he restricted travel to China. Also forced democrats to try to virtue signal and delay the stimulus bill. Also forced them to act deranged and constantly try to score political points. Also forced DiBlasio to encourage people to go out via tweet on March 20th.
He's a bad bad bad man. Sing it: Bad bad orange man, the baddest man to ever have a tan. Badder than old king kong, blame anyone but trump and you're wrong.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Obama inherited a recession which began 3 months before he took office, and republicunts blamed it on him. now, in year 4 of Trump's presidency. YEAR FOUR, after he took office and disbanded the pandemic first response team and made cuts to the CDC, somehow it's once again all Obama's fault. You're clowns
It is 100% correct to say Obama played a part in us not having enough masks.
Originally posted by Surtur
You say "most of the blame" and fair enough assuming people place some on Obama.In your experience, have those whining about Trump placed an iota of blame on Obama? Like have you encountered a single soul doing that?
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
No, they haven't, because people usually only think in the now, the recent past, and the near future...and in terms of action in response to the pandemic, those are really the time frames that matter.
That's fair! So I'm sure once this is all over people will reflect on the failures of both this admin and the previous one instead of just hypocritically ignoring one.
Originally posted by Surtur
Even Eternal Idol seemed to(begrudgingly) admit Obama played *some* role. Even if he said Trump deserves most of the blame he still acknowledged it.So I guess the question is...why can't you? What enables Eternal Idol to acknowledge that, but not you?
Trump claims he knew about both the medical supply shortage and the threat of a pandemic, didn't do anything about resupplying, made light of the COVID-19 crisis and claimed it was a political hoax to undermine his support, and took his sweet f*cking time invoking the Defense Production Act to finally resupply after the shit hit the fan here at home.
One was either negligent or unaware of the problem, the other was negligent and insisted it wasn't a problem at all until it got exponentially worse. Both share the blame, but in no way is it an equal share.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
There was nothing begrudging about it. If vital medical supplies were critically low during his administration, Obama should have taken action to restock somehow, especially if it was a known problem.Trump claims he knew about both the medical supply shortage and the threat of a pandemic, didn't do anything about resupplying, made light of the COVID-19 crisis and claimed it was a political hoax to undermine his support, and took his sweet f*cking time invoking the Defense Production Act to finally resupply after the shit hit the fan here at home.
One was either negligent or unaware of the problem, the other was negligent and insisted it wasn't a problem at all until it got exponentially worse.
Are you unaware of how negative you are?
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
There was nothing begrudging about it. If vital medical supplies were critically low during his administration, Obama should have taken action to restock somehow, especially if it was a known problem.Trump claims he knew about both the medical supply shortage and the threat of a pandemic, didn't do anything about resupplying, made light of the COVID-19 crisis and claimed it was a political hoax to undermine his support, and took his sweet f*cking time invoking the Defense Production Act to finally resupply after the shit hit the fan here at home.
One was either negligent or unaware of the problem, the other was negligent and insisted it wasn't a problem at all until it got exponentially worse. Both share the blame, but in no way is it an equal share.
And when it comes to equal shares of blame nobody holds a candle to the blame that needs to be placed on China and the WHO.
Originally posted by Surtur
And when it comes to equal shares of blame nobody holds a candle to the blame that needs to be placed on China and the WHO.
I agree that China must tighten food safety regulations going forward, but they don't deserve to be punished the way others in the thread think they ought to be. It wouldn't be good for our relations with them, or for the international community. It's the sort of thing that spawns war.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
That's a seperate yet not unrelated discussion.I agree that China must tighten food safety regulations going forward, but they don't deserve to be punished the way others in the thread think they ought to be. It wouldn't be good for our relations with them, or for the international community. It's the sort of thing that spawns war.
U say they don't deserve to be punished the way others think, is this saying u feel there is a way they should be punished? If so, what way?