Kylo Ren, Rey (Rise of Skywalker) vs. Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker (Return of Jedi)

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Kylo Ren, Rey (Rise of Skywalker) vs. Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker (Return of Jedi)

Which duo prevails?

Kylo dies in seconds, then Rey resurrects him and beats the other 2 while he sits on the side lines eating orange slices

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Kylo dies in seconds, then Rey resurrects him and beats the other 2 while he sits on the side lines eating orange slices
Who could defeat Ren from the team?

Spite. Either Vader or Luke can solo Ren.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Spite. Either Vader or Luke can solo Ren.
Based on?

The PT, OT, and ST.

Rey solos the other 3 characters in this thread.

Team one. Rey and Kylo are too much.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on?

Based on kylo ren never winning a fight against a force user

Rey is too much. Kylo is just there for emotional support

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Based on kylo ren never winning a fight against a force user
He bested Luke and Rey. Finn also if you want to get technical.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Rey is too much. Kylo is just there for emotional support
Ren was a more skilled fighter than Rey. You do not need much skill to kill Palpatine though.

Is that why rey stabbed him in the gut? Or how she needed to save him from the imperial gaurd that had him in a choke hold? Or how she needed to save him from the knights of ren? Or how she kicked his butt on star killer?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Is that why rey stabbed him in the gut? Or how she needed to save him from the imperial gaurd that had him in a choke hold? Or how she needed to save him from the knights of ren? Or how she kicked his butt on star killer?
He lost his mother and felt it. He dropped his weapon. His mother gave her life to bring him back. He fight three at a time and he was vulnerable after he killed the two of them. Rey was at odds one on one. Ren needed a weapon. He defeated her with a force push. He was wounded and unbalanced. Context.

Context, like him mind numbing an untrained Rey or a luke who was having a massive internal struggle at the thought of killing ren?

kylo was in a whole other class by the end of TRoS. he really did hand her ass to her

At best it's 2:1 in Rey's favor. And Rey is outright superior to Kylo in Force abilities.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Context, like him mind numbing an untrained Rey or a luke who was having a massive internal struggle at the thought of killing ren?
Luke woke the guy up in the middle of the night. He was in rem sleep. Ren was wounded and killed father. In ros he dominated her with her having been trained by Luke. Ren was always more skilled than she was.

Originally posted by Psychotron
At best it's 2:1 in Rey's favor. And Rey is outright superior to Kylo in Force abilities.
No, she was his equal. Snoke pointed this out. Darkness rises and light to meet it.

Because smoke was *never* wrong about anything...