Can Thor tag Wally West

She also fought Odin 400 million millions in less than 2 punches.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
So what if Thor destroys the planet?
You know what? Use some common sense guys. Why does the Marvel guys always try to play up people's weakness and match the DC side with shit like speed? It's retarded

Thor slams Mjolnir into the ground. And that's it. Wally has nowhere to go. Or a massive storm. It's pretty easy

Thor is NOT tagging Wally really any other way. A massive storm or destroying the surface they are on is the only way. Or portal that goes to or fromHe is not gonna physically touch him with any part of his body, nor a lightning bolt.

Everything at his disposal? Wally dies, there is no other option. Running fast doesent do shit against a planet destroying attack.. Godbutcher Thor hits the moon, everyone on Earth dies.

Y'all let the DC side run mental circles around y'all sometimes.

Here is some other options.

Thor drops a planetful of lava on Earth. Bye. Wally

Thor bfrs planet into sun. Bye Wally

Thor covers entire planet in water indefinitely. Bye Wally

One more time, Thor hits Earth so hard, it exploded. Bye. Wally.

Like I said. Spite match. Thor decimates

Explosions? Lava? Water? The Sun?

Flash vibrates through it all. Including the Death of the present universe, and the Big Bang of the next:

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And as for destroying the planet and being inspace:

This assumes he can't just pop into the Speed Force and chill out there.

Originally posted by carver9
She also fought Odin 400 million millions in less than 2 punches.

What is 400 million millions times in less than 2 punches? It’s as retarded as Wally being faster than speed.

Originally posted by carver9
She also fought Odin 400 million millions in less than 2 punches.

*Only* 400 million miles:

http://i.imgur.com/NiwoicN.jpg

To make these force values even more impressive your punch takes around six-hundredths of a second (60-100 ms) to throw.

So multiply by two, and assume Jane is really fast, so 120miliseconds. (I DO enjoy how suddenly Jane's travel speed feat is = reflex btw 😂😂)

400 million miles in 120 miliseconds, ASSUMING travel speed = reflex, is 12E12 mph.

Pretty fast.

Except it wasn't Thor doing it. It was a blast from Odin shooting her off the planet. This is a scan of the battle immediately preceding the Saturn/Jupiter scan

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/12/126748/5702366-4102900744-7ELAl.jpg

Odin blasts her off, and she gets sent 400 million miles away. Great durability feat, but as a speed feat?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
*Thor can use everything at his disposal*
*Flash can only vibrate and use his speed to avoid all of Thor attacks*

No.
This will make it clear.
1 second is like 31billion years to flash.
After 30.99 billion years (millions more to go) and the attack is 1 foot away, Flash simply moves behind Thor and starts all over.

Or Flash can vibrate intangible and stay in one spot.

Originally posted by carver9
She also fought Odin 400 million millions in less than 2 punches.

Also, you can’t give Jane’s feat to Thor and Vice verse.

Imagined if everyone here started giving Superman’s feats to Supergirl.

Originally posted by SquallX
Also, you can’t give Jane’s feat to Thor and Vice verse.

Imagined if everyone here started giving Superman’s feats to Supergirl.

Jane never flew that distance under her own power (and even if she did, why are people suddenly agreeing that travel speed=reflex speed?? I mean, I am A-OK with this ...)

Odin BLASTED her that distance.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jane never flew that distance under her own power (and even if she did, why are people suddenly agreeing that travel speed=reflex speed?? I mean, I am A-OK with this ...)

Odin BLASTED her that distance.

Travel speed don’t equal reflex only unusable when it’s been used again Superman.

😂 ... he said Odin BLASTED her that distance. Now that is funny. The only blast we see is on the moon and theres NOTHING showing the blast sent her flying or assisted in that ft. Especially reading the dialog. Amusing guy.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 ... he said Odin BLASTED her that distance. Now that is funny. The only blast we see is on the moon and theres NOTHING showing the blast sent her flying or assisted in that ft. Especially reading the dialog. Amusing guy.

Travel speed = Reflex speed now?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Travel speed = Reflex speed now?

We know Carver with his selective choosing of feats that helps his point.

Also, why is Jane even being mentioned when this is Thor? You know, the guy with hundreds, if not a millennia or so of experiences under his belt.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That doesn't mean anything when Flash is above that. And in this thread is using his speed to avoid Thor.

Your scan is like arguing that Spiderman can lift as much as WBH, because they both have 'super strength'. There are degrees to this.

She provides a frame of reference, that being lightning and we see the lighting behind her. That's 1/3 the speed of light in the atmosphere performing delicate surgery. The hand speed involved in throwing and punching is so much greater that it would show her able to do so at multiple times the speed of light. Combine that with Mjolnir's established speed and yes, she can tag him.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
She provides a frame of reference, that being lightning and we see the lighting behind her. That's 1/3 the speed of light in the atmosphere performing delicate surgery. The hand speed involved in throwing and punching is so much greater that it would show her able to do so at multiple times the speed of light. Combine that with Mjolnir's established speed and yes, she can tag him.

Erm.

Speed of lightning is way less.

https://zenodo.org/record/1231386

I hope you're not using a quora answer as your proof of the speed of lightning?

Two independent optical systems, one photographic and the other photoelectric, yielded common recordings for the third and fourth strokes; the respective two‐dimensional return stroke propagation speeds were 1.0 vs. 0.93 ×108 m/s for the positive (third) stroke and 1.0 vs. 1.0 ×108 m/s for the fourth stroke.

108 meters per second is fast, agreed. Against the Flash? That's nothing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Travel speed = Reflex speed now?

Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner did fly through asteroid belts and such without the benefit of the computer. Hal because he's a showoff, Kyle because the AI was disabled after Hal went mad.

Make of that what you will.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner did fly through asteroid belts and such without the benefit of the computer. Hal because he's a showoff, Kyle because the AI was disabled after Hal went mad.

Make of that what you will.

That's fine. I am just questioning Carver's use of a scan of them travelling as a reflex feat.

@Darksaint so your telling me he can just stay phased out forever? No need for oxygen? Food? Nothing? I don't buy that.

On top of y'all using his best showings, Flash has been tagged by far less than what Thor can bring to the table.

But if that's the case then I'm gonna report every Flash thread as spite, because nobody could beat him, not Clark, not TOAA, nobody. And we all know, an in character Flash has been beaten by Gorillas, Deathstroke etc. Etc

So it's another spite thread made by Alberto. Good job dude

The best chance Flash avoids getting tagged is by vibrating based on the op. I dont think time travelling is allowed... At least i think bfring oneself was not what the op was getting at.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
@Darksaint so your telling me he can just stay phased out forever? No need for oxygen? Food? Nothing? I don't buy that.

On top of y'all using his best showings, Flash has been tagged by far less than what Thor can bring to the table.

But if that's the case then I'm gonna report every Flash thread as spite, because nobody could beat him, not Clark, not TOAA, nobody. And we all know, an in character Flash has been beaten by Gorillas, Deathstroke etc. Etc

So it's another spite thread made by Alberto. Good job dude

Three words: Speed Force shenanigans.

Well, yes he has been tagged by far less. But you were bringing planetary storms and lava and destroying planets, so fair's fair. As for using best showings, well, Full Capacity rule.

And remember this:

For the last part of this point, I'm going to use a character I know a bit better: Wally West. Flash is notorious on the forum, and you could say some of it is earned. Most of it, however, is not the fault of the character. If you, as a poster, put The Flash against someone that does not have the means to hurt him, then that is on YOU. It's not The Flash's fault that he's not going to slow down or trip over a branch just to give a substantially slower character a chance against him.

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The Flash/Relevant Character X will use, at a bare minimum, the least amount of speed/Relevant Power, that he is capable of using under average/normal circumstances, required to not lose the fight, or get so badly injured that it will most-likely cost him the fight

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-If you put Flash up against someone that can't beat him without PIS, that's not his fault. That's yours.

Grodd and Deathstroke are much slower than Flash. Them tagging Flash are examples of PIS.

Edit: it's just the way things are. Superspeed and Superintelligence are two of the most broken powers in comics.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm.

Speed of lightning is way less.

https://zenodo.org/record/1231386

I hope you're not using a quora answer as your proof of the speed of lightning?

108 meters per second is fast, agreed. Against the Flash? That's nothing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm.

Speed of lightning is way less.

https://zenodo.org/record/1231386

I hope you're not using a quora answer as your proof of the speed of lightning?

108 meters per second is fast, agreed. Against the Flash? That's nothing.

Look at the actual print of the study at the bottom of your link and see that 108 is actually 10 to the eighth power. The preview didn't alter the 8 correctly.

https://zenodo.org/record/1231386

Same study is shown here.

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1987GeoRL..14.1150I/abstract

That's 1/3 the speed of light. 10