Originally posted by cdtm
His history is why I believe he's a peer.
His history is very much lacking when compared to Danny.
Originally posted by cdtm
Finger poking Cyke.
The Cat did a pressure point chop on Cyclops from behind, and while Scott was battling Wade. Every elite MMA fighter knows pressure point techniques, especially when given a free shot.
Also all it means is that they are 1-1, because previously Scott optic blasted the Cat into a ko.
Originally posted by cdtm
Impaling Deadpool on his own sword.
He did own Wade a couple of times during that Arc. But Wade was fanboy crushing over him, and not fighting to par. Still this is probably the Cat's best feat in modern times. So he does have a legit win over Deadpool.
He also has a legit loss to Taskmaster where he was two-shotted.
Originally posted by cdtm
Stalemating Shang three times.
Shang has gotten better since then, but the Cat doesn't have the feats too match. Also, the Cat was Shang arch rival back then so it makes sense that they were more or less portrayed as equals during that time.
Originally posted by cdtm
Stalemating Iron Fist.
So the Cat has 1 stalemate and 1 lopsided loss to Danny.
🙁 Not a lot there for the Cat to build a case as being equal to current Danny. This is a surprising stance from you.
SM, Taskmaster is Meta though. He can double speed and everything.
He's the guy Osborn sends after Deadpool, and even gives Spidey problems. Essentially, he's an amped Midnighter.
Not sure if Shang Chi ever fought him, but I bet he wouldn't do all that much better, assuming Taskey is well written (A copycat with double time speed really SHOULD be stomping elites)
Originally posted by Supermutant
yeah also Cyclops wasn't expecting to fight the Cat right there. They were on the same page for a brief moment there.
Even if he expected to fight them both... I can't agree with cd that he acted like an idiot... he targeted the guy who drew his sword on him --- it makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Even if he expected to fight them both... I can't agree with cd that he acted like an idiot... he targeted the guy who drew his sword on him --- it makes perfect sense.
You think Wade did that out of the blue?
I think he started drawing during Cykes ominous speech, and not before.
"I don't trust you."
*During words*.
(Oh shit, thems blasting words. Betting take out ol' stabby McStab)
Originally posted by cdtm
But see, starting its what makes him an idiot.Not targeting the immortal guy with the sword, but engaging him when Bruce Lee's rival is standing right next to him.
Cyclops didn't have a reason to expect an attack from the Cat at that specific time. They all was sort of working together to stop Cable, at least a momentary truce. Deadpool was the one who made an aggressive move by unsheathing his sword, that's why Cyclops blasted it in response. Makes a lot of sense according to the story.
Originally posted by cdtm
SM, Taskmaster is Meta though. He can double speed and everything.He's the guy Osborn sends after Deadpool, and even gives Spidey problems. Essentially, he's an amped Midnighter.
Not sure if Shang Chi ever fought him, but I bet he wouldn't do all that much better, assuming Taskey is well written (A copycat with double time speed really SHOULD be stomping elites)
Taskmaster could only go double time in the Udon suit for the exact reason that he doesn't possess meta stats. His body couldn't handle the stress of prolonged double speed without it. For instance Taskmaster while copying Elektra's moves couldn't keep up with her speed.
If anything, Midnighter is an amped Taskmaster.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I don't think Udon suit was the thing that enabled him to do it.But it's true he learned and did that trick only in that book... watching videos sped up twice their normal speed... and was capable of short bursts of such speed only, as he has human limitations.
I didn't mean it enabled him, but it allowed him. Without it he would immediately die from just trying it. Even with the Udon suit he could only do double speed briefly, before breaking every bone in his body or passing out.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If we really want to argue whether or not there was a chance he used it against Shen, we should check if the Madripoor tournament happened before or after Taskmaster's Udon book.
Well as we can see in my previous link, the Udon suit is different and distinct from Tasky's normal costume. And below we see that Tasky wore his usual costume when he beat the Cat. So I don't think its even necessary to compare the timeline of those books. IIRC Tasky has never even attempted double speed without wearing the Udon suit.