ROTJ Vader vs. ROTS Yoda (Canon)

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xPRIMEx Senior Member

ROTJ Vader vs. ROTS Yoda (Canon)

In canon, Vader’s suit only increased his connection to the force, and he just continued to grow more powerful as time went on. He’s also ranked above Sidious in lightsaber combat according to a canon guide book.

Is this enough to put him above RoTS Yoda in canon?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Vader reached Yoda's level by the time of RotJ... Especially when nothing in canon indicates that he did anything but improve across the board after RotS.

CriticalShaft Disagree - you're wrong

I don't see it tbh.
Vader is 80% of Sidious and Yoda and Sidious were equals in ROTS
His lightsaber skill is no doubt excellent, but I don't think his suit offers enough agility to compete with an Ataru master like Yoda.

Total Warrior Dark Councilor

yoda by feats should manhandle him, just a few years before that he was getting force pushed by ezra and kanan

Darthadi Senior Member

Yoda in a great fight. Even if Vader is his equal in the force he would still lose as Yoda has a style advantage.

Darthadi Senior Member

Originally posted by Total Warrior
yoda by feats should manhandle him, just a few years before that he was getting force pushed by ezra and kanan

You know that Vader was distracted and was just screwing around. In canon, anyone can be force pushed by anyone if not ready for the atack. Not to mention it happened in a Filoni show which are notorious for PIS (Dooku being captured by pirates, Anakin vs Clovis, Maul having problems with a dog, etc)

Inedian Senior Member

Vader kills him.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by CriticalShaft
Vader is 80% of Sidious
That's Legends, though.

Nothing in canon suggests that Vader's power was ever gimped after RotS.

CriticalShaft Disagree - you're wrong

Didn't George Lucas state that?

CriticalShaft Disagree - you're wrong

Originally posted by Inedian
Vader kills him.

Yeah no

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by CriticalShaft
Didn't George Lucas state that?
Indeed, but that was before Disney purchased the franchise. These days, GL's word is no longer irrefutable -- it's essentially Legends.

He intended for Vader to have been gimped after the events of RotS. That is no longer the case in canon, however.

Stringer Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed, but that was before Disney purchased the franchise. These days, GL's word is no longer irrefutable -- it's essentially Legends.

He intended for Vader to have been gimped after the events of RotS. That is no longer the case in canon, however.

Add on another reason for disliking Disney’s interpretation of Star Wars.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

I don't mind it in this case, tbh.

Vader's portrayal in canon is one of the few things that Disney has done well, imo.

Forschbewithu Senior Member

This is one of my ultimate fantasy match-ups in canon. They are so close in sabers and to that you might as well call them even. I think it would come down to how their styles mesh.

If Yoda couldn't do anything to Dooku with the force, it will come down to their "skills with a lightsaber" as well between Vader and Yoda. Yoda being the lightening fast ataru user and Vader being powerful djem so user. The longer this fight goes, the greater the chance Vader has.

As of now, I'm inclined to give it to Yoda in a HARD fight that could go either way.

xPRIMEx Senior Member

I think this fight would end in a standstill tbh. I don’t see either of them being able to kill the other