President to Suspend all Immigration

But you didn't make a valid point. In fact you even acknowledge we're in the middle of an outbreak, but we should just keep letting immigrants in cuz...reasons.

Jesus dude, this shit where you're against something just cuz Trump does it..is getting out of hand. Do better 👆

why is it that speaking against scapegoating of immigrants = "anti-trump", and how did that become "der left's" fault?

just a rhetorical question, you don't have to fight it on your hill

Lol son: walk away

and there's the pretend win. your fee-fees have made you powerful.

*yawn* Same old shit. Orange man bad, etc.

Moving on.

you should post some memes now to solidify your pretend-victory.

Anyways! I look forward to seeing who comes out against this. Best not be anyone crying about lockdown protests, anyone blaming Trump for deaths, etc 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
Can you explain why the lockdowns should not stop, but immigrants should be able to continue flowing into this country?

Just show me you have a valid reason for being against this. It can't just be feelings, can it?

see:

Originally posted by BackFire
It’s way too late for this to make a difference as far as the virus goes. Only way it could have really helped is if this was done before the virus came to the US.

Plus immigration has essentially been suspended for like a month already when we closed our borders.

Originally posted by Artol
Since the US has developed into the current hotspot of the outbreak however it is really ls more important that Americans don't leave the country and carry it to other places, I think.

But no, those aren't valid arguments. Not when it's possible for someone infected, but without symptoms to come here and infect others.

Why is that okay? Nobody has yet explained why this is acceptable and "others here have the virus" is not the correct answer.

Originally posted by Surtur
But no, those aren't valid arguments. Not when it's possible for someone infected

is that how you feel?

Originally posted by BackFire
It’s way too late for this to make a difference as far as the virus goes. Only way it could have really helped is if this was done before the virus came to the US.

Plus immigration has essentially been suspended for like a month already when we closed our borders.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Once transmission occurs within a population, immigration restrictions become worthless.

Thus this is more about winning votes than saving lives.

This should have been the end of the thread and no real discussion is left to be had. If you read the remaining posts in this thread, you can see that I'm right.

maybe the rest of us should just pm our discussion points to you, and you can then post them here, so as to not force surt to fight on his hill. if we had done that, the thread wouldn't have gone past page one. you know it's true, don't deflect, just say it. "You're right, bash"

Originally posted by Surtur
Ah, but no. You're quite wrong. Remember the mantra about gun control from progressives: if it saves even one life.

If these measures prevent even one person who could have the virus(but has no symptoms) from coming here and spreading it to others? Well, by their own logic: that shit is worth it.

Nice try but Surtur is his own mastermind and doesn't need outside help.

You can see this when I'm absent for days or weeks and he still posts those same kind of zingers that clearly points out the hypocrisy and idiocy from leftist retards. I assure you, there's enough of that from the lefties that he doesn't need help. He could randomly think something they do or say is retarded or hypocritical and he'd be right with about 2 minutes of google searching.

He's fragile did you ever think what shattering his narrative would do?!

so sorry, but isn't that assertion "your point is invalid because it came from you" the most simple and perfect example of ad hominem?

oh wait hold on, I'll try to get ddm to post that point, so you won't knee-jerk attack from your battered hill

ddm?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nice try but Surtur is his own mastermind and doesn't need outside help.

You can see this when I'm absent for days or weeks and he still posts those same kind of zingers that clearly points out the hypocrisy and idiocy from leftist retards. I assure you, there's enough of that from the lefties that he doesn't need help. He could randomly think something they do or say is retarded or hypocritical and he'd be right with about 2 minutes of google searching.

Now, that is comedy. 😆

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, as long as we are setting aside the "if it even saves one life" logic now.

I will point out millions lost jobs and so stopping the flow of immigrants could mean more job openings once this is over.

That's fine to make that argument. Let's not pretend it's about saving lives though.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Now, that is comedy. 😆

we went from surt's clumsy and baldfaced ad hominem falacy, to ddm's clumsy and baldfaced 'guilt by association' fallacy. this has been another worthwhile discussion, hasn't it? great read

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so sorry, but isn't that assertion "your point is invalid because it came from you" the most simple and perfect example of ad hominem?

Yeah, perhaps. So you should probably stop doing that, home-skillet.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Now, that is comedy. 😆

haermm

another epic deflection 👆

you look enough a hypocrite. my work is done here