Originally posted by h1a8How many times do you want to ignore stuff? You’re just a sad troll at this point.
I believe blasts from Surfer will do little to nothing.
I'm talking about hitting Thanos with the board from behind at insane speeds (over and over). Creating multiple singularities inside Thanos. Etc.
Originally posted by h1a8
Please stop explaining what Surfer won't do. Explain what Surfer will do that's different than normal forum Surfer (because we have forum Flash). Explain CISLESS without saying what someone won't do.
This makes perfect sense. But u have to understand forum flash is a joke character
Originally posted by h1a8
Please stop explaining what Surfer won't do. Explain what Surfer will do that's different than normal forum Surfer (because we have forum Flash). Explain CISLESS without saying what someone won't do.
Woops didn't see this.
OK.
PIS off Surfer will not be tagged by slower characters. He will use his speed defensively.
CIS off Surfer will use his speed offensively.
CIS AND character off Surfer will use his cosmic awareness to pinpoint the exact weakness of his opponent, clone himself into a million Surfers, make them all intangible (except for one or two), then go to town.
Some will transmute the surroundings around the opponent into adamantium
Some will transmute their opponent's blood into adamantium
Some will command their boards (which have also been cloned a million times) to fly at 30 million times C into the back, front and sides of their opponent's head
Some will open black holes in their opponent's eyes
Some will shoot suns at their opponent
Some will throw moons at their opponent
Some will raise shields
Some will absorb all of the opponent's attacks
And the one Surfer clone that isn't intangible will punch REALLY REALLY hard.
All of these Surfers will also do all of the above simultaneously, at six million times C.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Woops didn't see this.OK.
PIS off Surfer will not be tagged by slower characters. He will use his speed defensively.
CIS off Surfer will use his speed offensively.
CIS AND character off Surfer will use his cosmic awareness to pinpoint the exact weakness of his opponent, clone himself into a million Surfers, make them all intangible (except for one or two), then go to town.
Some will transmute the surroundings around the opponent into adamantium
Some will transmute their opponent's blood into adamantium
Some will command their boards (which have also been cloned a million times) to fly at 30 million times C into the back, front and sides of their opponent's head
Some will open black holes in their opponent's eyes
Some will shoot suns at their opponent
Some will throw moons at their opponent
Some will raise shields
Some will absorb all of the opponent's attacks
And the one Surfer clone that isn't intangible will punch REALLY REALLY hard.All of these Surfers will also do all of the above simultaneously, at six million times C.
What is CIS AND?
So CIS OFF will do all those things you mentioned?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What do you understand to be CIS off? Based on the acronym.
I was thinking CIS off means that the character is not limited by their character and will perform things outside of their character. Or does it mean their stupidity is removed and will not do anything that goes against common sense?
But CIS and character off means what you are saying. Ok got you.
I was just confused because you made it seem that CIS off Surfer and forum Surfer had no difference (forum characters don't typically fight like comic characters because of the FULL CAPACITY AND NO PIS RULES).
Originally posted by h1a8
I was thinking CIS off means that the character is not limited by their character and will perform things outside of their character. Or does it mean their stupidity is removed and will not do anything that goes against common sense?But CIS and character off means what you are saying. Ok got you.
I was just confused because you made it seem that CIS off Surfer and forum Surfer had no difference (forum characters don't typically fight like comic characters because of the FULL CAPACITY AND NO PIS RULES).
I once thought as you do, to be fair.
But yes, it means their stupidity is removed (or its corollary, the CIP - Character Inhibited Powers).
It doesn't, though, mean they will fight like idiots. The character's personality is an integral part of the match and dictates how they will perform. This is the crux of the rules we've come up with. It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them.
Surfer isn't going to fight like an idiot. But neither is he doing half the things I mentioned, even though he has done so in the past - because his character is still there.
Now you could argue his mental speed however will enable him to reach the 'winning' tactic earlier than Thanos - so if blasting doesn't work, then punching, then he'll start busting the exotic attacks out. But he doesn't fight like a Flash or a Superman, and the problem is he has so many 'exotics' to choose from.
Meanwhile, Thanos can just overwhelm him with a punch. Simple, effective, and has worked in the past.
The debate then comes whether Thanos can do so.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's the thing there's no such thing as forum *insert character*. It's a trolling tool used by posters who want to argue powerset. Sure if you or I were Surfer we'd spam miniature suns and black holes at ftl speeds but that's not how the character is portrayed, so no scans to back said argument.
No one on this site goes by character portrayal. Lol
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I once thought as you do, to be fair.But yes, it means their stupidity is removed (or its corollary, the CIP - Character Inhibited Powers).
Surfer isn't going to fight like an idiot. But neither is he doing half the things I mentioned, even though he has done so in the past - because his character is still there.
Now you could argue his mental speed however will enable him to reach the 'winning' tactic earlier than Thanos - so if blasting doesn't work, then punching, then he'll start busting the exotic attacks out. But he doesn't fight like a Flash or a Superman, and the problem is he has so many 'exotics' to choose from.
Meanwhile, Thanos can just overwhelm him with a punch. Simple, effective, and has worked in the past.
The debate then comes whether Thanos can do so.
Then technically CIS off Surfer is just the same as forum Surfer. Forum Surfer won't fight like an idiot either. I"ll just remember to create CIS off and character off threads when I want us members to control the character.
Originally posted by carver9
No one on this site goes by character portrayal. Lol
Yes, some do. The ones who win debates.
Originally posted by MrMind
then so is forum surfer
I know. I said that
Originally posted by h1a8
Then technically CIS off Surfer is just the same as forum Surfer. Forum Surfer won't fight like an idiot either. I"ll just remember to create CIS off and character off threads when I want us members to control the character.
Youd still lose the debate because you'd have to prove Surfer could do those things on panel and you can't
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yes, some do. The ones who win debates.I know. I said that
Youd still lose the debate because you'd have to prove Surfer could do those things on panel and you can't
The only things I gave was hit Thanos from behind with the board traveling at insane speeds, create black holes on or in Thanos, and use his light speed reflexes, Shields, and super speed to avoid attacks.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove what things?
Forum Surfer can only do things that he has shown evidence towards in comics.The only things I gave was hit Thanos from behind with the board traveling at insane speeds, create black holes on or in Thanos, and use his light speed reflexes, Shields, and super speed to avoid attacks.
He hasn't shown evidence of what you're using as an argument in comics. Sure he could do the behind the back board trick but seriously how often do you think that tactic would succeed? He's never created a black hole in anyone and the last time he encountered a black hole he was tossed back in time. Light speed sure, speed sure, shields sure...but speed, shields etc has never been a determining factor in his fights with Thanos. He always gets wrecked.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
He hasn't shown evidence of what you're using as an argument in comics. Sure he could do the behind the back board trick but seriously how often do you think that tactic would succeed? He's never created a black hole in anyone and the last time he encountered a black hole he was tossed back in time. Light speed sure, speed sure, shields sure...but speed, shields etc has never been a determining factor in his fights with Thanos. He always gets wrecked.
Created a black hole inside someone. 🙂
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/1472575-annihilation_silversurfer1_017.jpg
And easily.
