Count Nefaria vs. Gladiator

vs.

Nefaria puts that mohawk in the Thor's anus and wins eventually.

Neferia wins after a very good fight.

Nefaria appeared to be a tier above Gladiator.

Gladiator wins.

Classic Count no doubt

Originally posted by Supermutant
Classic Count no doubt

We take them as a whole. All of their showings.

Classic would be too easy, as Glads already "fluctuated" even on the beginning of his career, when he was supposed to be at his best.

Count would beat the **** off Gladiator. He was a notch higher than him at least.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We take them as a whole. All of their showings.

Classic would be too easy, as Glads already "fluctuated" even on the beginning of his career, when he was supposed to be at his best.

The pic in the op was of classic and we actually go by the most current version unless specified in the op. Anyways there is a huge difference between classic and modern Count. So you want a composite version in that case Glads average is probably higher so he wins.

glads loses

Originally posted by Supermutant
The pic in the op was of classic and we actually go by the most current version unless specified in the op. Anyways there is a huge difference between classic and modern Count. So you want a composite version in that case Glads average is probably higher so he wins.

Pics are pics 😛 Nefaria wasn't officially depowered.

Anyway, as the thread barely got a few replies, it's still not too late for me to specify as I did above 😉

As bad as Modern Nef might've looked, Kallark was busy bending over for random dudes in public, too.

Bump

Gladiator.

Far better feats, waaay superior speed. Only real argument in Nef's favor is his performance against Thor, and frankly Gladiator has done better. "The Reigning" for example.

Originally posted by cdtm
Gladiator.

Far better feats, waaay superior speed. Only real argument in Nef's favor is his performance against Thor, and frankly Gladiator has done better. "The Reigning" for example.

Alternate universe Gladiator.

Same with the him fighting Thor in a time dilation.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Alternate universe Gladiator.

Same with the him fighting Thor in a time dilation.

Maaaaybe. Well, yes. 🙂

All within Glads power set though. His super speed is no joke.

And he still punched out a planet.

How about Mean Supreme? Stalemated him.

Nova Prime Richard Rider he outright overpowered.

Originally posted by cdtm
Maaaaybe. Well, yes. 🙂

All within Glads power set though. His super speed is no joke.

How about Mean Supreme? Stalemated him.

Nova Prime Richard Rider he outright overpowered.

Don't know if Supreme fight is canon or not, but the rules wouldn't allow it. I personally don't care it being used if it is canon, but that's not my call.

Don't know if he actually has combat speed fights like the time dilation fight. It's the only one I've seen argued, and like I said, alternate universe version.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Don't know if Supreme fight is canon or not, but the rules wouldn't allow it. I personally don't care it being used if it is canon, but that's not my call.

Don't know if he actually has combat speed fights like the time dilation fight. It's the only one I've seen argued, and like I said, alternate universe version.

Wouldn't it be enough to show out of combat feats that proved he's capable though?

Like how PC Superboy countered a magic attack by Mordru by turning sand into a Time Bubble, dumping his friends into the bubble, and escaping through time, just before the magic bolt hits. Even if Superboy never used that level of speed in a fight, shouldn't it count for fights here?

Originally posted by cdtm
Wouldn't it be enough to show out of combat feats that proved he's capable though?

Like how PC Superboy countered a magic attack by Mordru by turning sand into a Time Bubble, dumping his friends into the bubble, and escaping through time, just before the magic bolt hits. Even if Superboy never used that level of speed in a fight, shouldn't it count for fights here?

You didn't argue any Gladiator speed feats that fit what you described so.....what was your point?

Originally posted by Delta1938
You didn't argue any Gladiator speed feats that fit what you described so.....what was your point?

Was responding to combat speed feats comment.

What if I could show speed feats that aren't in combat?

Originally posted by cdtm
Was responding to combat speed feats comment.

What if I could show speed feats that aren't in combat?

It would still be relevant if it actually applied. Maybe you should have actually used it to begin with if you have it. sneer