Hm. Gungir Loki was barely keeping up with pre-Rag Thor and lost in the end. Shield and Mjolnir—toss/lighting gives Cap both a ranged attack and protection from Loki’s ranged attacks. Durability should have been the big advantage Loki had here but the shield kinda cancels it out as Cap has both evasion and blocking on his side (tho, this is assuming that Gungir does not simply pierce thru the shield the same way Thanos’ sword did, one would assume that Odin’s weapon would be comparable to that). In a straight up fight worthy Cap would stomp Gungir Loki.
It becomes trickier when you start thinking about illusions and such. Can Loki sucker Cap and backstab? Certainly. And with the CIS stip that becomes even more problematic as there is a TON of ways for Loki to outsmart Cap here. So that’s what is making me unconvinced either way at the moment so I’m open to opinions right now but the CIS stip makes me lean more towards Loki.
I don't think either necessarily need to oneshot the other. But if one can land a hit or hit combo that stuns the other one, it could open the opportunity for a decisive blow. I didn't want to give Loki the Mind Stone staff though, because all he'd actually need to do then was lightly poke Cap with it to win, as we see Avengers 1 Steve get incapacitated by it in Endgame.
My opinion on that is a bit different from most people, based on what I have seen during discussions, who seem to think it's strictly one or the other. Because I think the Asgardian royals' power are a combination of physical and mystical, which is why Hela was able to physically match and even better Thor despite their respective physical builds (due to being older and drawing on more of their exotic power to compensate for Thor's raw physicals), and why Cap appeared to be physically better than normal after picking up the hammer but still not quite on Thor's level. Because one would be base Super Soldier + Power of Thor while the other is base Asgardian + Power of Thor. It also goes some way to explain any perceived inconsistencies and is also in line with some of the comments we get from characters such as Odin and the like.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Cap has direct one on one showings with Thanos putting him on his ass.Loki has Thanos snuffing the life out of him
By default Cap wins.
By screen feats cap slaughters
Remember first Avengers movie, when the Avengers captures Loki, Cap A was fighting Loki before Iron Man and a quintet showed up, and Loki was clearly beating him.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Cap has direct one on one showings with Thanos putting him on his ass.Loki has Thanos snuffing the life out of him
By default Cap wins.
By screen feats cap slaughters
Remember the first Avengers movie, when the Avengers capture Loki, Cap A was fighting Loki before Iron Man and a quintet showed up, and Loki was clearly beating him.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
And coming to the battle, one should remember that Gungnir doubles as a stabbing and slashing weapon in addition to energy blasts capable of disintegrating Frost Giants. Mjolnir is, despite lightning powers and all, is a blunt weapon
Fire melts ice. Don’t see your point
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
K-Dog vs Brolyblack - battle of biases
Not sure how I was biased. It looked like BrolyBlack was comparing the two characters’ showings against Thanos, and I said basically why not compare the two characters’ own onscreen battle against each other instead (as a starting point).
BTW I agree with Vault Dweller’s analysis about the possibility of Worthy Cap possibly getting a magical upgrade, but not as much as full Thor strength.