Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The issue is not that skeptics are moving the goal posts, but that the phenomena is not well-defined.In order to establish acceptance criteria for a particular phenomena, the phenomena itself needs to be understood.
I cannot tell you what evidence I would accept for the existence of ghosts until you define what a ghost is, and how you know that is what a ghost is.
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Originally posted by Eon Blue
👆I’ve never viewed the supernatural as “super”, more along the lines of unexplained occurrences that are inherently within the confines of the mundane; a mere side-effect to the reality in which we exist is bound to happen in an organic fashion after a set amount of time. Usually when the term “paranormal”, “ghosts”, or “spirits”, people automatically equate it with the horrid escapades of spiritualism and hokey practices creating a knee jerk reaction that isn’t truly informed. I’m sure one with your beliefs wouldn’t be shocked to the core at how seemingly open minded sects eschew the very thought of the beyond.
I agree in that more research should be done in scientific setting on the matter. Individuals that have experienced something out of the pale know exactly how real these encounters can be and not in a hallucinatory fashion. Granted, there could be a myriad number of explanations for these seemingly strange encounters, but I truly believe they’d all inherently be grounded in the known sciences.
If we're just defining paranormal as "personal experiences we can't explain", then fine. I generally see claims of divine, occult, or phantasmal encounters when people say "paranormal" though. I don't think science has fully explained ball lightning for example, but we don't call it paranormal: we still associate it with the natural laws of our world.
I think the dividing line is if "forces from beyond" power these experiences or not.