Originally posted by StoicIf Pocket Universe/SA Superboy couldn't one-shot him at his earliest levels, what makes you think Blue Marvel will be able to do so?
His lifting feats are attributed to tactile telekinesis. Conner lifted a train, and he strained while doing so. Adam lifted a meteor the size of a state, and showed no signs of it being close to his strength cap. Adam fought King Hyperion on equal footing, and he wasn't blitzed by Hyperion's super speed which shows that he can fight super fast beings. The same can be said about his short bout with Sentry. The answer should be obvious, Conner would be over his head, and should be one shot by this level of opponent, or outright dominated.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
If Pocket Universe/SA Superboy couldn't one-shot him at his earliest levels, what makes you think Blue Marvel will be able to do so?
Forum rules make mention that events of PIS aren't supposed to be mentioned. That entire subject is a dual edged sword, as it's pretty clear that any chacacter capable of fighting off 2 Supermans, should've easily one pieced Conner into grape juice. There's a clip of what it would look like. Man vs Train... give it a glance if you have the stomach for it. As it stands, Blue Marvel is well above Conner's tier. Or, are you trying to place Conner on Black Adam, and Magog's level, when he's clearly 2 tiers below them?
Originally posted by h1a8
Strength only determines battles when all else is nearly equal. If one being is significantly faster than the other or have some unique power capable of gaining an advantage then strength is not a huge factor.It's too simplistic to always vote for the stronger. It shows a lack of thinking as well.
What shows lack of thinking, is you assuming I said who wins.
My response is aimed at the overwhelming amount of votes for Superboy, no doubt based on him having the word “super” in his name. Whoever would win, this wouldn’t be a stomp.
Originally posted by Damborgson
What shows lack of thinking, is you assuming I said who wins.My response is aimed at the overwhelming amount of votes for Superboy, no doubt based on him having the word “super” in his name. Whoever would win, this wouldn’t be a stomp.
Yes it actually would be. Conner is nowhere near powerful enough to compete with Adam. Replace Adam with Conner when he ran into that Avengers team, and what do you think would happen? Remember, Adam wasn't going all out against them. He couldn't have been if he was clearly trying to explain the situation to them.
Originally posted by StoicBut it wasn't the only time something like that happened. And I'm not talking about Prime, I was referring to a blitz from Pocket Universe Superboy.
Forum rules make mention that events of PIS aren't supposed to be mentioned. That entire subject is a dual edged sword, as it's pretty clear that any chacacter capable of fighting off 2 Supermans, should've easily one pieced Conner into grape juice. There's a clip of what it would look like. Man vs Train... give it a glance if you have the stomach for it. As it stands, Blue Marvel is well above Conner's tier. Or, are you trying to place Conner on Black Adam, and Magog's level, when he's clearly 2 tiers below them?
Prime didn't one-shot him either. Black Zero? Nope. Survives getting clocked in the head by KC Superman with enough force to move a planet.
I'm simply arguing against the notion that Adam would be able to one-shot Superboy, so relax with the strawmen.
Originally posted by Stoic
Show me an example that isn't laden in PIS showing that Conner is on this level. Adam while in battle sudued a weakened Abstract level being with his powers. That alone is far above Conner's pay grade.
So you can’t. And you made the claim he could do it during the fight ignoring the context with the original shadowing
Now not debating who is stronger but the idea of using that specific tactic in the middle of the fight
Of course Adam is more than strength. This is lopsided in Adams favor.
Originally posted by TheHulksterbecause he can make force fields? 😂
Of course Adam is more than strength. This is lopsided in Adams favor.