Ahsoka > Savage?

Sidious easily stomped Maul and Savage, yet Maul still believed that he and Ahsoka could beat Sidious.

So does this mean S7 Ahsoka > Savage?

S7 Ahsoka might be above Savage, but Maul and Ahsoka would still die to Sidious. Maybe Maul just lied about that to turn Ahsoka. There is also no timeframe. Maybe Maul wanted to train Ahsoka first similar to how in ESB Vader wanted to train Luke before taking on Sidious.
We also don't know if Maul referred to a combat scenario. There are other ways to eliminate Sidious and considering the context (Maul said that the jedi can't stop Sidious), i don't think he referred to a direct fight as all the jedi together would anihilate Sidious.

I was always assumed it would be a long term thing, and I suppose in the long run it wasn't unthinkable. Ahsoka's potential must be off the charts if she's already approaching maul before she's an adult.

Yeah, S07 Maul+Ahsoka wouldn't have been anymore effective against Palpatine than Maul+Savage were -- that is to say: not very effective at all. Surely Maul recognized this, given the buttf*cking Palpatine gave he and Savage.

So unless Maul was being extra arrogant/douchey, I can only assume that he was referring to future-tense(ie. after training Ahsoka or somesuch.) /shrug

I think he meant for Ahsoka and himself to team up to take down Anakin, thereby ruining Sidious's plans.

Spoiler:
Not that beating Anakin would be any easier than beating Palpatine, in actuality.

But at the end of the episode maul says- "we could have destroyed Sidious!"

So I think Maul's intention was for he and Ahsoka to kill Sidious directly.

Mace could have destroyed Sidious by himself so these two definately could have.

Maul and Savage were already beaten by Sidious "easily" in TCW, but you think swapping out Savage for Ahsoka would allow them to win?

lmao, gtfo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, S07 Maul+Ahsoka wouldn't have been anymore effective against Palpatine than Maul+Savage were -- that is to say: not very effective at all. Surely Maul recognized this, given the buttf*cking Palpatine gave he and Savage.

So unless Maul was being extra arrogant/douchey, I can only assume that he was referring to future-tense(ie. after training Ahsoka or somesuch.) /shrug

Probably was delusional. Maul never really seemed quite the same mentally after his revival.

Originally posted by Sheev
Maul and Savage were already beaten by Sidious "easily" in TCW, but you think swapping out Savage for Ahsoka would allow them to win?

lmao, gtfo.

Filoni doesnt laugh at the idea:

https://youtu.be/d_NmvaJyzj0

^ 2:10-2:20

But yeah Vader/Anakin seems like a more realistic goal.

That said, if these two permanently teamed up and like trained/sparred each other every day, then it could have been a different story 5/10 years down the line.

I think Mayl was wrong and just lying

Maul also intended to lure Anakin to Mandalore to kill him... dude is an absolute idiot.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, S07 Maul+Ahsoka wouldn't have been anymore effective against Palpatine than Maul+Savage were -- that is to say: not very effective at all. Surely Maul recognized this, given the buttf*cking Palpatine gave he and Savage.

So unless Maul was being extra arrogant/douchey, I can only assume that he was referring to future-tense(ie. after training Ahsoka or somesuch.) /shrug

Probably this. For what its worth Dooku was confident once Savage was Maul level he could defeat Sidious as well.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Ahsoka did fairly well against a prime Vader who was trying to killer and last week somebody shown me that Vader was ranked higher than Sids in sabers. So adding Maul to help Ahsoka seem like a win.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Probably was delusional. Maul never really seemed quite the same mentally after his revival.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
This is season 7 ahsoka. The one who faced vader was "vastly" more skilled.

And imagine how much greater she would have been if she had a competitive sparring partner that whole time ?

Look This is no different to when Dooku wanted AOTC Kenobi to join him in defeating Sidious. Didnt mean they had to challenge him the next day.

Originally posted by ares834
Maul also intended to lure Anakin to Mandalore to kill him... dude is an absolute idiot.

Yeah and he was expecting Kenobi there with him. Have no idea how he intended to deal with both of them and the 501st.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah and he was expecting Kenobi there with him. Have no idea how he intended to deal with both of them and the 501st.

maybe help from the mandalorian crew as well etc ?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And imagine how much greater she would have been if she had a competitive sparring partner that whole time ?

Look This is no different to when Dooku wanted AOTC Kenobi to join him in defeating Sidious. Didnt mean they had to challenge him the next day.