Originally posted by tkitna
Did the characters in WW3?
That's my point.
Earlier, Stoic argued that BA fought heroes who forgot most of their powers.
Then said Morg fought pretty hard core opponents.
I was wondering if he was being fair and unbiased, and applying the same logic to Morg that he previously applied to BA.
What say you?
Originally posted by tkitna
Did the characters in WW3?
Exactly. Now there are flaws in both of the team fights. WW Black Adam, the team was holding back tremendously. The Morg fight, they didn't fight him at the same time. Majority of the fights were separate. Looking at the single showings between both, Black Adam was getting his face melted off by Martian Manhunter and was having a difficult time whereas Morg was treating each Herald like fodder.
This is Stoic's post:
Originally posted by Stoic
Morg, he actually fought opponents that didn't forget that they had powers while flying face first into his fist. Morg even held his own against Thanos.
Then repeated:
Originally posted by Stoic
All of Galactus' Heralds are far faster than light speed h1. All of them. BA fought a bunch of characters that did not fight to the best of their abilities. Some literally almost bent over in prep for the boot in ass.
So my question remains the same. OK, BA fought guys who all forgot their powers.
Did Morg's opponents fight to the best of their abilities? Simple question.
Carver, shut up. You're an idiot.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's my point.Earlier, Stoic argued that BA fought heroes who forgot most of their powers.
Then said Morg fought pretty hard core opponents.
I was wondering if he was being fair and unbiased, and applying the same logic to Morg that he previously applied to BA.
What say you?
All im saying is this speed difference is complete and utter BS. Let them throw down and if and when they would, Morg should win this battle. He beat way tougher opponents while BA beat way more opponents. Its a quality versus quantity deal.
There is a difference.
Originally posted by tkitna
All im saying is this speed difference is complete and utter BS. Let them throw down and if and when they would, Morg should win this battle. He beat way tougher opponents while BA beat way more opponents. Its a quality versus quantity deal.
There is a difference.
Thanks, but that wasn't the point of my post when I replied to Stoic.
Let's not pretend Morg fought the heralds as they used the fullest of their abilities.
Carver is just being an ass as per usual.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks, but that wasn't the point of my post when I replied to Stoic.Let's not pretend Morg fought the heralds as they used the fullest of their abilities.
Carver is just being an ass as per usual.
They tried but he was simply too much for them. Whereas the DC squad flew in with their faces. Shit, Power Girl forgot that she had freeze breath, heat vision, and super speed, and that's just her. Morg was simply too powerful based on naration and earlier plot lines.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks, but that wasn't the point of my post when I replied to Stoic.Let's not pretend Morg fought the heralds as they used the fullest of their abilities.
Carver is just being an ass as per usual.
I gotcha Saint. My response was meant more towards H1's idiotic argument than yours. As for the heralds fighting against Morg, I would have to go revisit the fight before claiming if the heralds were going all out. I seem to remember that they were. but i'll go reread to verify here in a few.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did the Heralds of Galactus fight to the best of their abilities?
Rereading the fight now. Heck, right from the start of the fight, Terrax stated Morg had more power than all of the heralds combined and they would all die fighting him. The Surfer agreed with him and tells him they just need to buy him time as he flies off to confront Galactus.
Airwalker states he was resurrected for the sole purpose of defeating Morg and no other outcome would be acceptable. In retrospect though, he then disarms Morg and says non lethal capture of Morg can proceed. By then, of course it was to late.
Terrax states that defeating Morg would grant him freedom and he would stop at nothing to win. Morg responds with 'No quarter asked' and Terrax says 'none given'.
Morg is about to kill Terrax and Nova blindsides him with a blast that appears to KO him, but he stands up behind Nova as she starts talking with Surfer. Morg says they have his attention now as he strikes and kills Nova. *Morg was hurt here though as it shows him shaking while grabbing his axe and standing, so the heralds could and should have won*
Galactus strips Morg of the power cosmic and the heralds gang up on him and defeat him.
All this being said, Airwalker didnt use his powers to the best of his abilities clearly. Nova didnt press when she had the chance and Morg seemed vulnerable. Surfer wasnt even there and didnt fight at all.
In the end, Morg did walk through them fairly easily when they were fighting and he had each of them an inch away from death in a matter of a few panels. Thus I still believe he seems more powerful and impressive than BA to me and I still think he wins.
That's fair if you believe so.
Put it this way: the forum rules state characters fight to the fullest of their capabilities.
Heralds of Galactus, having the smorgasbord of powers that they do, are often turned into character avatars when people talk about 'Full Capacity' with them.
So if I ever see a herald in a forum fight, now we know what their 'full capacity' is. No lightspeed fighting, no black holes, no transmutation, nothing like that. Just blasting and punching.
Of course this doesn't cover Surfer, as he wasn't there.
Just pointing that out.