Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I do think we should honestly represent information. You may not like the media, but we should see them as a level above youtube actors in reliability and represent the media honestly.
At least in the USA we literally just went through a period in our history that the media propped up and literally misled the public deliberately for years to push a narrative that was false.
I can not speak to all youtube media but personally I use sources like The Hill (more for their online articles than youtube presence) for news that speaks credibly FAR FAR more than our traditiional media outlets that have proven time and again that their revenue through headlines dictates stories over facts...they have to make sure their audience is happy with their shat reporting.
Just to add another source online reporting is Matt Taibbi, who is FAR FAR better factually then most mainstream media sources.
Originally posted by snowdragon
At least in the USA we literally just went through a period in our history that the media propped up and literally misled the public deliberately for years to push a narrative that was false.I can not speak to all youtube media but personally I use sources like The Hill (more for their online articles than youtube presence) for news that speaks credibly FAR FAR more than our traditiional media outlets that have proven time and again that their revenue through headlines dictates stories over facts...they have to make sure their audience is happy with their shat reporting.
Yep it is always weird to see them shitting on youtubers considering the behavior of the mainstream media for the last 4-5 years.
Not every youtuber is of the same quality, but more often than not I find out via youtube videos something that I wasn't aware of that I didn't see mentioned by the msm. For instance I first discovered that Crowdstrike admitted it had no direct evidence that russians hacked and then stole emails from the DNC from watching a Jimmy Dore video.
Originally posted by SurturI'm not saying he is, however propagating false narratives based on misrepresenting media evidence to alter racial perceptions in favour of white men who committed the act of killing a black man. Is the sort of thing the Alt-right might do. I don't for a minute think DDM is genuinely Alt-Right, I think he may be playing with a political position for lulz though.
Really curious to know how DDM is alt right. This should be fascinating.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm not saying he is, however propagating false narratives based on misrepresenting media evidence to alter racial perceptions in favour of white men who committed the act of killing a black man. Is the sort of thing the Alt-right might do. I don't for a minute think DDM is genuinely Alt-Right, I think he may be playing with a political position for lulz though.
But see you talk about how people should be honest and what you just said about DDM was dishonest.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm not saying he is, however propagating false narratives based on misrepresenting media evidence to alter racial perceptions in favour of white men who committed the act of killing a black man. Is the sort of thing the Alt-right might do. I don't for a minute think DDM is genuinely Alt-Right, I think he may be playing with a political position for lulz though.
You're gaslighting and outright lying, here. Why?
Does it upset you that you fell for a false-narrative painted by the media and knee-jerk reacted with emotions instead of paying attention to the facts?
Don't worry, I fell for it, too. Then I did research. Found out the media was lying again and tried to racism-bait for clicks and views.
Originally posted by Surtur
But see you talk about how people should be honest and what you just said about DDM was dishonest.
Correct. The only people who would agree with Whirly's dishonest take are PVS and people who have an agenda to troll me.
Originally posted by dadudemonI've already pointed out your false representations elsewhere DDM. It's not personal, I like you, always have and am not trolling you as you are in the real reality aware. I'm not bothering discussing any of this further. Anyone who reads your links will see no rash of burglaries etc. Good gaslighting though.
You're gaslighting and outright lying, here. Why?Does it upset you that you fell for a false-narrative painted by the media and knee-jerk reacted with emotions instead of paying attention to the facts?
Don't worry, I fell for it, too. Then I did research. Found out the media was lying again and tried to racism-bait for clicks and views.
Correct. The only people who would agree with Whirly's dishonest take are PVS and people who have an agenda to troll me.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I've already pointed out your false representations elsewhere DDM.
Which is a false representation of what I did - what you're doing, here, is dishonest. I'm rather amused by it.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It's not personal, I like you...
I assume your current lying is due to being bored. hmm
I give you attention (though not as stupid to keep typing the same things over and over like others).
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I'm not bothering discussing any of this further. Anyone who reads your links will see no rash of burglaries etc. Good gaslighting though.
You misspelled break-ins. You and PVS keep trying to move the goalposts but I'm not stupid enough to fall for the word game and haven't been since the beginning when I responded to PVS about the rash of break-ins. 🙂
I think that's what upsets you and PVS the most about my involvement in the convo - I never once fell for the word games (which are irrelevant to the actual court case). I think you both are used to "gotchas' with less attentive posters. The pretend e-wins got old to me years ago for these types of discussions.
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Originally posted by dadudemon
Which is a false representation of what I did - what you're doing, here, is dishonest. I'm rather amused by it.I assume your current lying is due to being bored. hmm
I give you attention (though not as stupid to keep typing the same things over and over like others).
You misspelled break-ins. You and PVS keep trying to move the goalposts but I'm not stupid enough to fall for the word game and haven't been since the beginning when I responded to PVS about the rash of break-ins. 🙂
I think that's what upsets you and PVS the most about my involvement in the convo - I never once fell for the word games (which are irrelevant to the actual court case). I think you both are used to "gotchas' with less attentive posters. The pretend e-wins got old to me years ago for these types of discussions.
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Honest question: why do you think they are so invested in the Arbery case being racially motivated?
It's not just that they think it was racially motivated, but they seem to turn hostile whenever any evidence suggests otherwise.