Originally posted by xPRIMEx😂 glad you looked into it for yourself.
I’m done with this topic. Clearly your mind is made up. I got the answer I asked for when I made this thread. I read the fight from the book and it’s pretty clear what happened.
I said it from the start, but it's best to just ignore juggernaut74 and his biased, skewed misinterpretation of the facts. 👆
Originally posted by SheevHe actually said he partially agreed with me, he said he didn't think Anakin would have won had Palpatine not been there.
😂 glad you looked into it for yourself.I said it from the start, but it's best to just ignore juggernaut74 and his biased, skewed misinterpretation of the facts. 👆
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Dooku was unprepared for the revelation that being defeated by Anakin meant that Palpatine would backstab him by not preventing Anakin from killing him. That's what caught Dooku off guard, none of this remotely suggests that he allowed Anakin to win, the same novel goes out of its way to emphasise Dooku shitting his pants and using whatever tricks he can to avoid death (IIRC, Obi-Wan actually pierces Dooku's lightsaber guard at one point). So no, Dooku didn't let Anakin win. Was he holding back? Well, it's possible that Dooku didn't want to kill Anakin, so he would've been pulling lethal punches e.g. beheading Anakin, but we also have to remember that Makashi, which Dooku's entire fighting style is based on, is about inflicting jabs and light cuts on the opponent, an example of this is demonstrated against Obi-Wan in AotC, so Dooku was not under any obligation to ignore opportunites of non lethal victories against Anakin, that's what his fighting style was designed for.The fact that Dooku didn't realise that Palpatine wasn't going to save his life from Anakin, isn't mutually exclusive with him doing everything he can to prevent himself from having his hands cut off by Anakin.
Originally posted by Eli Vanto
That's because Sidious coaxed Anakin into using his rage against Dooku. Once he accessed his rage, he beat the absolute shit out of Dooku.But none of that is canon anyway, because Palpatine didn't say a word to Anakin in the movie until he told him to kill Dooku.
This is true.
Originally posted by Eli VantoThe novel not being canon does not help your case at all so you shouldn't say such things.
That's because Sidious coaxed Anakin into using his rage against Dooku. Once he accessed his rage, he beat the absolute shit out of Dooku.But none of that is canon anyway, because Palpatine didn't say a word to Anakin in the movie until he told him to kill Dooku.
Because without the novel you have no ground to stand on to prove your claims because those scans are pretty clear I posted that Dooku was playing a part in a ruse. If your playing a part in a ruse your not really trying.
Originally posted by juggernaut74The novel is what you've been using to try and "prove" that Dooku was holding back, you goon.
The novel not being canon does not help your case at all so you shouldn't say such things.Because without the novel you have no ground to stand on to prove your claims because those scans are pretty clear I posted that Dooku was playing a part in a ruse. If your playing a part in a ruse your not really trying.
With out it, your only "proof" is that cropped page you keep spamming, which tells us what we already knew: that Dooku didn't realize Sidious would let him die until he was about to get his head cut off by Anakin.
You are terrible at this.
Originally posted by Eli VantoDooku was playing a part in a ruse.
The novel is what you've been using to try and "prove" that Dooku was holding back, you goon.With out it, your only "proof" is that cropped page you keep spamming, which tells us what we already knew: that Dooku didn't realize Sidious would let him die until he was about to get his head cut off by Anakin.
You are terrible at this.
It's not rocket science.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Go back and do some reading.It does wonders.
I did all the reading, but you have failed to prove how Dooku not knowing that Palpatine's real plan was to tell Anakin to kill Dooku if Dooku had lost the fight because he thought Palpatine's plan was to stop Anakin from delivering the killing blow if he overcame Dooku, means that Dooku threw the fight or was holding back.
I know what the scene was; Anakin and Obi-Wan fight Dooku/ Dooku removes Obi-Wan out of the fight. Anakin is forced to fight Dooku by himself. Anakin demolishes Dooku once he lets go of his Jedi restraint. Palpatine is pleased by Anakin defeating Dooku. Palpatine tells Anakin to kill Dooku. Dooku is shocked by this revelation. Dooku realises that Palpatine's "Don't worry bro if Anakin beats you I'll put my foot down by stopping Anakin from killing you if he wins, like the good old referee that I am hahaha" was a ruse.
The fact that Palpatine lied to Dooku about rescuing Dooku if Dooku lost the fight, isn't a confirmation that Dooku allowed Anakin to win. Galan007, xPRIMEx and Sheev are on the money on how they explained it to you:
Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs*Dooku coming to the realization that Palpatine was not going to stop Anakin from decapitating him does not mean Dooku was holding back against Anakin in the moments leading up to that.
Originally posted by xPRIMEx
In other words, Dooku was expecting Palpatine to help if Anakin started to win. So you admit Anakin was winning
Originally posted by Sheev
facepalmDooku was just surprised that Sidious was ordering Anakin to kill him, as he was hoping that his master would help him. That doesn't mean Dooku was holding back before that when Anakin unleashed his fury. The novel implies the exact opposite ffs.
This is what I mean. You misinterpret the hell out of the context, twist it to try and fit into your little headcanon bubble, then try to sell it as fact. Pure cringe.
I think you just need to let this go and move on.