Originally posted by cdtm
They got it reversed.It's heat based villians who logically wouln't be bothered by a steaming plate of dumplings. Mr. Freeze couldn't stand room temperature.
Mister Freeze isn't really like Icicle. Icicle is more like Iceman in that he would be cold enough to cool down the parts of the bowl he's touching without fear of burning himself. It isn't the best clue they could have given Courtney, but it works imo.
To be fair, there have been plenty of times when "ice characters" get beaten by what is essentially room temperature, but Icicle is being written as being so powerful that I don't think anything other than a super-hot flamethrower like Heatwave would have, would even bother him.
If I was to guess, he might be the most powerful character in the show. We've yet to see Grundy at his peak, but still.
Did you read James Robinson's run? That was the definitive Shade.
As good as Starman was, the only thing I'm never sure of about Robinson writing is his habit of inserting "preppie" hobbies everywhere.
Like a snake themed villian visits an antiques dealer, decked out in a trench coat and hat, and says in a terrifying voice "Hellllooooo. I colllect trannsssiiisstoor raadddioooos. Do yoouuu haaavvveev aannnnyyyyy?"
It was both interesting fir being different, and confusing because I can't identify in the slightest with collecting antiquities, and sure can't imagine a blood thirsty snake person having that passion.
Would be neat seeing it on the show though..
I very much doubt that we'll get to see Shade in the show (beyond the little shadow grabbing Dr Midnite we've already seen).
1. It was necessary to have a powerhouse like him and a plot device like the Fiddler as members of the ISA during the 10 years ago battle to add to Brainwave, Wizard, Grundy and Icicle to make the defeat and deaths of Alan, Fate, etc believable.
2. The reverse of that very thing is why they cant be with the bad guys now. If we still had Shade, Fiddler (at the full competency) and Wizard as well as the rest, the kids wouldnt sta d a chance. My guess is even BW Snr wont be back to full capacity by the time Jnr JSA take on the ISA.
As it currently stands we've had Sportsmaster confirm that mrs Fiddler isnt up to her hubbies level. Wizard is dead, BW is NOW recovering from coma. That only leaves Icicle and Grundy with any real powers vs the New JSA kids plus Stripe and (one hopes) Shining Knight. Justin should be able to make a decent fight for Sportsmaster and his wife. Stripe and Hourman can take Grundy (provided he plays along given they lock him up, but then he clearly played along vs Rex and Wizard's wifes car). Surely dr Autism (as Ive heard Midnite called) can take on Gambler in some tech/hacking battle. That leaves Court for Icicle and Yolanda for Black Dragon.
Having shade appear on either side upsets the valance too much
Nice reasoning (I agree w. most of it!), but I wasn’t thinking of him appearing this season for the final battle, but next season maybe, as a maybe yes/maybe no bad guy.
Shade works best as a tweener, but characterization aside, I just wonder about his power, because Brainwave and Icicle set a high bar!