UK coronavirus live: minister confirms policy was to protect NHS not carehomes

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UK coronavirus live: minister confirms policy was to protect NHS not carehomes

UK coronavirus live: minister confirms government policy was to protect NHS ahead of care homes

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/20/uk-coronavirus-live-school-rebellion-english-primaries-pmqs-covid-19-latest-news-updates?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Is that surprising. They didn't say "stay at home, save lives, protect care homes"....

Maybe everyone can do one of those bullshit rounds of applauses for care homes, maybe that'll help....shithole country

Originally posted by Artol
Is that surprising. They didn't say "stay at home, save lives, protect care homes"....

Maybe everyone can do one of those bullshit rounds of applauses for care homes, maybe that'll help....shithole country

Not at all, although it would have been good to provide Care homes with PPE earlier as the prediction of the R number dropped. It would also have been a good idea to be more transparent with carehome data earlier so Care homes could plan better strategies.

I don't quite understand what this is about.

Protect NHS? How do you protect NHS? Do you mean protect how costly NHS by moving money to this thing or that thing?

I started to read the article and got a few paragraphs in. Still don't understand what care homes have to do with NHS and this topic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't quite understand what this is about.

Protect NHS? How do you protect NHS? Do you mean protect how costly NHS by moving money to this thing or that thing?

I started to read the article and got a few paragraphs in. Still don't understand what care homes have to do with NHS and this topic.

Protect NHS by getting overrun like Italy did, by staying at home and stopping the virus spreading.

There's a whole issue about care homes going on. Because early on hospital patients were sent back to care homes early and without being tested (to free up hospital space), and then this disease spread like crazy in care homes. There's supposedly 22,000 excess deaths in care homes this year over the last 5 year average.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't quite understand what this is about.

Protect NHS? How do you protect NHS? Do you mean protect how costly NHS by moving money to this thing or that thing?

I started to read the article and got a few paragraphs in. Still don't understand what care homes have to do with NHS and this topic.

The NHS and care homes are paid for out of the same budget and have the same minister/secretary of state

They moved suspected Covid-19 infected elderly patients out of hospitals and into care homes without testing. Didn't give any advice or PPE to those care homes. In some cases didn't even advise the care homes that the people may be infected and/or infectious. A quarter of all UK deaths have been in care homes.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The NHS and care homes are paid for out of the same budget and have the same minister/secretary of state

They moved suspected Covid-19 infected elderly patients out of hospitals and into care homes without testing. Didn't give any advice or PPE to those care homes. In some cases didn't even advise the care homes that the people may be infected and/or infectious. A quarter of all UK deaths have been in care homes.

reeks of deliberate population culling

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Protect NHS by getting overrun like Italy did, by staying at home and stopping the virus spreading.

There's a whole issue about care homes going on. Because early on hospital patients were sent back to care homes early and without being tested (to free up hospital space), and then this disease spread like crazy in care homes. There's supposedly 22,000 excess deaths in care homes this year over the last 5 year average.

Oh, that.

I view NHS as the healthcare system (the administration and bureaucratic side of how people get healthcare). I didn't view it as the actual healthcare service, itself such as "cardio-thoracic treatment" and "Gynecological services." It seems like the way you use the initialism is more like a collection of medical services as well as the administrative and bureaucratic stuff in one label.

Probably because our equivalent, Medicare, isn't a medical services solution - it's just the coverage service that deals with regulation stuff and paying for stuff.

Anyway, now that that is clarified, this makes a whole lot more sense.

We had a similar controversy in NY because Cuomo housed and rehoused positive COVID-19 people with others. Several are talking about how his decisions literally killed thousands of people and about 1/3 of all NY deaths can be directly tied to this particular policy. It's scary...elderly are definitely 85%+ of all the deaths related to this. Any policy that deals with the elderly has the chance to save years of their lives or end it far too early.

^ Technically NHS would be the entire Health Care system. But we all understood what slogan meant.

Yeah its because they are all packed together in care homes. Would be like sending people with Covid-19 to go live in a house filled with Obese people.