Originally posted by The Lone Ranger
"Legend," my ass. He was a real, historical person. That is fact. You can argue about whether He was actually divine if you like but there is no doubt He actually existed. That is IRREFUTABLE.
Dude, again, B.C. and A.D. were used by virtually everyone, not just Christians. Like I said, this B.C.E. and A.C.E. crap is a relatively new development used by people who wanna deny the historicity of Jesus Christ ever actually existing.
Jesus Christ shook up history so much that practically EVERYONE was using the B.C. and A.D. for many centuries afterwards. He was a real person, sorry.
He still is, btw, but that part is merely my and millions of other people's personal beliefs.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Dude, again, B.C. and A.D. were used by virtually everyone, not just Christians. Like I said, this B.C.E. and A.C.E. crap is a relatively new development used by people who wanna deny the historicity of Jesus Christ ever actually existing.Jesus Christ shook up history so much that practically EVERYONE was using the B.C. and A.D. for many centuries afterwards. He was a real person, sorry.
He still is, btw, but that part is merely my and millions of other people's personal beliefs.
And no, most of the planet wasn't actually using AD and BC then. You do realize Europe is not "practically everyone", don't you?
Even now that it's widespread, it isn't because of Jesus's impact. It's because Europe violently colonized the planet...
I don't think Jesus would approve tbh.
Originally posted by StyleTime
It was created a little over 500 years after Jesus was thought to haved lived though. And didn't become widespread spread for another 400 hundred years after that.And no, most of the planet wasn't actually using AD and BC then. You do realize Europe is not "practically everyone", don't you?
Even now that it's widespread, it isn't because of Jesus's impact. It's because Europe violently colonized the planet...
I don't think Jesus would approve tbh.
QFT
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Dude, again, B.C. and A.D. were used by virtually everyone, not just Christians. Like I said, this B.C.E. and A.C.E. crap is a relatively new development used by people who wanna deny the historicity of Jesus Christ ever actually existing.Jesus Christ shook up history so much that practically EVERYONE was using the B.C. and A.D. for many centuries afterwards. He was a real person, sorry.
He still is, btw, but that part is merely my and millions of other people's personal beliefs.
^This has to be parody, even though there are people who believe similar.
Originally posted by StyleTime
It was created a little over 500 years after Jesus was thought to haved lived though. And didn't become widespread spread for another 400 hundred years after that.And no, most of the planet wasn't actually using AD and BC then. You do realize Europe is not "practically everyone", don't you?
Even now that it's widespread, it isn't because of Jesus's impact. It's because Europe violently colonized the planet...
I don't think Jesus would approve tbh.
And that's the thing Christians don't get, if Jesus was as he's written in the Bible, he would not approve of his teachings being spread around the globe through the point of a sword and barrel of a gun, same goes for the Bible being used as a bludgeon to put people down and spread inequality as it's done today.
Originally posted by Robtard
And that's the thing Christians don't get, if Jesus was as he's written in the Bible, he would not approve of his teachings being spread around the globe through the point of a sword and barrel of a gun, same goes for the Bible being used as a bludgeon to put people down and spread inequality as it's done today.
I also doubt he was as concerned about a damn calendar as Star is.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I believe in Jesus. But the case you are making is honestly pis poor.
We're just pointing out he has his information about the calendar completely wrong.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Sorry, I'm done arguing with you idiots.The historicity of Jesus Christ is irrefutable. Period.
You refused to believe fairly well documented information about the use of A.D. and B.C.
Like...we literally have the monk's name who made the Anno Domini dating system. Dionysius Exiguus. Born in Sythia Minor circa 470. He came up with Anno Domini in his later years, hoping to replace the Anno Mundi dating system. In fact, he's the one who said it was 525 years after Jesus when he created Anno Domini dating.
The monk who made the very thing you're talking about, said that dude. 😱
Originally posted by StyleTimeHe keeps taking it as an assault on Jesus for some reason.
We're just pointing out he has his information about the calendar completely wrong.
Like you don't even need historical proof to have Faith. That's why it's called Faith.
That said even without Faith, there is a lot of reason to believe Jesus existed. But it's certainly not historic fact. And definitely not as simple as "duh the Calender"
Considering the sheer amount of translations and interpretation, the Jesus of the NT could be an amalgam of a few real and made up people, like I don't think Jesus the man actually casts spells like heal moderate wounds, transmutation and raise the dead.
There's absolutely writers biases/changes in there though, just human nature. Happened with the KJV the NLT etc.