Silver Surfer vs Superman - power meshing

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Thor and Hulk vs Surfer and it being any different than Superman being hit by Zod, Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman. I need to see this. Surfer no sold Beta Ray Bill hits who moments before destroyed planets and resisted a black hole.

DD will not wreck Surfer, especially that version of Doomsday.

Zod is in Superman's league in strength. Captain Marvel has magic so that helps..
Wonder Woman uses pressure point strikes. But did you notice that she doesn't even come close to koing Superman with standard strikes?

Why wouldn't DOS wreck the hell out of Surfer. He killed Superman?
Never mind. I concede. Superman and Surfer are peers in blunt force durability.

Originally posted by h1a8
Being jarred (rocked to the point that you can be koed with some more added hits) is not the same as being hurt (with almost 0 ko effect).

Zod is in Superman's league in strength. Captain Marvel has magic so that helps..
Wonder Woman uses pressure point strikes. But did you notice that she doesn't even come close to koing Superman with standard strikes?

Why wouldn't DOS wreck the hell out of Surfer. He killed Superman?
Never mind. I concede. Superman and Surfer are peers in blunt force durability.

I literally asked you to show me them rocking Surfer to thar point.

So Thor and Hulk isn't in an upper class of strength? Again, I can post peers rocking Superman, even knocking him out. You're saying Surfer has a glass jaw and I'm saying Superman jaw is more glassy. I also asked would you like to do a comparison?

Originally posted by carver9
I literally asked you to show me them rocking Surfer to thar point.

So Thor and Hulk isn't in an upper class of strength? Again, I can post peers rocking Superman, even knocking him out. You're saying Surfer has a glass jaw and I'm saying Superman jaw is more glassy. I also asked would you like to do a comparison?

I conceded the point. Did you read the last sentence?
Superman got knocked to the moon and and was fine.
What's Surfer's best quantifiable feat against blunt force?

Originally posted by h1a8
I conceded the point. Did you read the last sentence?
Superman got knocked to the moon and and was fine.
What's Surfer's best quantifiable feat against blunt force?

He withstand punches from someone who had the entire gravitational power of a planet..

Let's not forget this beauty. He withstand the power of a clash that not only threaten reality, but it destroyed all of the solar systems around it.

https://imgur.com/a/nli4WXA

Originally posted by carver9
He withstand punches from someone who had the entire gravitational power of a planet..

Let's not forget this beauty. He withstand the power of a clash that not only threaten reality, but it destroyed all of the solar systems around it.

https://imgur.com/a/nli4WXA

That has no meaning Carv. He was tapping into the gravity of the planet but he didn't possess all of it. Even if he did then how much force is that?
The force of gravity is a dual concept. For example the ENTIRE Earth pulls you at 170lb (im guessing your weight).

Anyway, the 2nd problem is that isn't a feat. He must show his punching power some other kind of way. I can have the power of a planet but hit like a bitxhh.

The last scan isn't a durability feat against blunt force. What did Surfer actually withstand? What actually struck him?

Originally posted by h1a8
That has no meaning Carv. He was tapping into the gravity of the planet but he didn't possess all of it. Even if he did then how much force is that?
The force of gravity is a dual concept. For example the ENTIRE Earth pulls you at 170lb (im guessing your weight).

Anyway, the 2nd problem is that isn't a feat. He must show his punching power some other kind of way. I can have the power of a planet but hit like a bitxhh.

The last scan isn't a durability feat against blunt force. What did Surfer actually withstand? What actually struck him?

Read the scan, it tells you what struck him, lol. Ok, I can do better. Surfer and Morg headbutt clash destroys planets and moons and Surfer tanks it.

Originally posted by carver9
Read the scan, it tells you what struck him, lol. Ok, I can do better. Surfer and Morg headbutt clash destroys planets and moons and Surfer tanks it.

An asteroid with moons? Just say you don't like that Surfer did that and call it a day.

Originally posted by carver9
Read the scan, it tells you what struck him, lol. Ok, I can do better. Surfer and Morg headbutt clash destroys planets and moons and Surfer tanks it.

That's not a Headbutt lol. Their heads are not even touching in the last scan showing both of them with energy coming out. That's energy flowing out from both of them. Energy discharge from both achieved the result.

Originally posted by carver9
An asteroid with moons? Just say you don't like that Surfer did that and call it a day.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's not a Headbutt lol. Their heads are not even touching in the last scan showing both of them with energy coming out. That's energy flowing out from both of them. Energy discharge from both achieved the result.

That's energy coming from their clash. It's 100% a headbutt

Originally posted by carver9
That's energy coming from their clash. It's 100% a headbutt

I disagree. Even if it was then it wasn't the headbutt (I still don't see a headbutt) that destroyed the moon (asteroid). It was the cosmic energy that was released from both characters.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer lifts a living planet and carry it across space...

https://imgur.com/LfVzIeY

Superman can perceive a nanosecond as many minutes? Show me.

Prove he has a glass jaw. He tends to handle Thor, Hulk, and Thanos punches just fine. Are you talking about the old fight against Thanos? That's like me bringing up Doomsday killing Superman. Or Titus almost killing Superman in a single hit...

... but again, we can 100% compare who has the glass jaw here. I'm all game, lol.

First; Batman makes a comment that Robin has “recently set out on his own.” This is problematic because the JLA is still in Happy Harbor, meaning it should be way too early for the many retconned schisms between Bruce and Dick to take place — this tells us that not only is this set well in the past, but it doesn’t fit anywhere into that past. Second; the story notes that Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman — who is “not an active member” — had been shirking League duty prior to this. At story’s end, the Trinity resolve to start attending regular meetings. This is another error because, at this point, the Trinity would already have been involved quite a bit with the team. Third; the Atom merely reads the files on Titus after the fact; his absence is unexplained, but he certainly would have been a JLA member at this point.

That fight was reference in a later showing introducing Titus again. It's canon.

Superman wins. It can only take his powers to beat him and he still wins.

Originally posted by carver9
That fight was reference in a later showing introducing Titus again. It's canon.

Originally posted by carver9
That fight was reference in a later showing introducing Titus again. It's canon.

I expect we’ll see another mention in another thread in a week or two. He never learns.

Originally posted by Juntai
Some of JLA classified is out of continuity. The fight against Titus is either a) out of continuity, and/or b) a very young weak Superman. He mentioned being slower than a jet in that storyline and was unable to fly the moon. Both things that have never been true about his character since the Golden Age.

Originally posted by Juntai
In fact, only a few of the arcs of this book were ever side-injected into continuity, it was otherwise a place for them to release discarded minis. As such, even Former Known as/I can't believe its not the justice league doesnt fit into continuity either, as it features a Max Lord that never went evil. Neither does Kid Amazo. Neither does Titus.

I can't believe I have to pop up into every thread of Carver mentioning Superman and re-iterate this for years on end.

Originally posted by Juntai

Titus is non-continuity.

Originally posted by Juntai
Again, the Titus story isn't current in the train of continuity, it was meant to meant to happen way in the past, if it's continuity at all. A jet was faster than Superman by his own admission. Wally West suddenly had BLONDE hair for this story.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where are those things called moons carver?

In the scan, they are either moons, or other planets within that particular solar system. It's a beast feat Abhi.