Who is the Biggest Gaslighter in the GDF?

This IS the BIG one people. It will not only show how the forum is divided, it will show who people feel has the most and least political integrity on the forum. It's a small forum so the choices are small. Please don't vote on party lines, friendship or trolling. This should tell us all we need to know. For instance whilst I disagree with him Broly isn't in my opinion a gaslighter, he says what he thinks and has a rigid right wing trumpet position. Some may disagree and say he is a Gaslighter. Ethneo is also not for me a gaslighter he is a troll. I have included both though in this poll.

Also, if anyone wants to expand, who do they think is most successful at it and what are their motivations for engaging in Gaslighting, whilst I made a distinction for Ethneo between Gaslighting and Trolling, they are not mutually exclusive. Ethneo is just too extreme and leftfield to Gaslight anyone.

Please stay civil and anyone highlighted by the forum is welcome to produce a Gaslighting word salad in defence. Is S and M the H1 of the GDF for example? They are also encouraged to back this up with charts and dubious statistical data...

oh this one's easy. no internal debate, just insta-clicked ddm

Whirly, Bash, Artol.

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Definitely PVS, hands down. Easy vote. I don't think I've ever encountered a person who tries to legitimately gaslight as much as PVS whilst claiming everyone else around them does it.

He does it so much I made a meme for him:

^^ I think that gaslighting this thread for more votes should be against the rules. you're going to win this anyway, no need for all the "vote for ddm" campaigning

Someone should define gaslighting.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^ I think that gaslighting this thread for more votes should be against the rules. you're going to win this anyway, no need for all the "vote for ddm" campaigning

Are you actually crying because I casually handed your ass to you for the millionth time?

"waaaah, dadudemon doesn't fall for my rage trantrum fake news. big meanie!"

Originally posted by BackFire
Someone should define gaslighting.

in the case of online debate I believe the core characteristic is the deliberate attempt to create an "illusory truth effect", which means that the gaslighter(s) routinely flood a topic with misinformation and misrepresentation of sources and data, while simultaneously and casually denying accurate information and correct interpretation of sources and data (often repeating said misinformation ad nauseum and attempting to make truth and facts appear ridiculous and insane).

one gaslighter can be quite effective, but when they have followers who agree with them and cheerlead, it's easy for the casual passerby to be fooled into believing that the gaslighter is actually the credible and correct party.

when cornered and unmasked, they often derail topics to personally attack and attempt to discredit their opponent with lies, slander, memes, etc. their 'final stand' is often to accuse the non-gaslighter of being the actual gaslighter

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
in the case of online debate I believe the core characteristic is the deliberate attempt to create an "illusory truth effect", which means that the gaslighter(s) routinely flood a topic with misinformation and misrepresentation of sources and data, while simultaneously and casually denying accurate information and correct interpretation of sources and data (often repeating said misinformation ad nauseum and attempting to make truth and facts appear ridiculous and insane).

one gaslighter can be quite effective, but when they have followers who agree with them and cheerlead, it's easy for the casual passerby to be fooled into believing that the gaslighter is actually the credible and correct party.

when cornered and unmasked, they often derail topics to personally attack and attempt to discredit their opponent with lies, slander, memes, etc. their 'final stand' is often to accuse the non-gaslighter of being the actual gaslighter

Absolutely right and you've done well to define what you do.

Remember this? When you tried gaslight KMC with your misrepresentation of facts and lies? You just kept repeating that anyone who disagreed that the Covington kids walked up on Philips where alt-right racist fascists or whatever. And it turned out you were the one trying to gaslight?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
bullshit gaslight thread. Same old supra

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Adam Poe for destroying the newest gaslight narrative. f*ck the little fascists anyone who defends then.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Ahhh, and it gets better!

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-incident-indigenous-peoples-march-longer-video/2630930002/

Phillips guy seems like a good guy except for his aggression against the MAGA students.

Here is a much longer video. Which shows how aggressive the NA Vet is. Remember, these MAGA students were at the Lincoln Memorial and were approached. With Phillips seeming like a great guy who wanted to stop the aggression from the Black Israelites against the young students (I believe Philips and his reasons behind his approach but he was clearly being aggressive and started the incident).

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Apparently, the above video keeps getting taken down from YouTube so it may not last. Also, contrary to the narrative being spun in most sources, when f*ggot is yelled, the students react negatively seen at 7:18. There goes that narrative, as well.

And here is the full almost 2 hour video showing this confrontation start:

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The beginning of the video starts with Black Israelites mocking Native Americans for worshiping totem poles.

Around 1 hour and 12 minutes is when you can see Philips enter the group of kids.

Guys...seriously, this should disturb all of you. Philips seems like a good guy, imo. But he was rather aggressively in his approach and was rather disrespectful.

Truly good times.

And remember when people pointed out that Ahmud Arbery was likely trying to burgle Larry English' house and you denied it fiercely by repeating the same exact failed arguments, over and over, so I had to make this video to show you why you were being dishonest?

Originally posted by dadudemon
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And then remember when you tried to gaslight the thread by messing with the facts of the story to fit your fantasy?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
even surt knows there was no cause for citizens arrest ffs

what do you get out of deliberately lying and gaslighting, besides a sticky hand? durwank

So I have to keep reposting this over and over because you still don't care about the facts:

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is the correct take on the two key points of the case that does not confuse lawful pursuit with homicide:

1. That Arbery legit was casing the joint (thus, constituting a first degree burgle which is a felony). This provides lawful pursuit of Arbery if the McMichael's can prove they had first hand knowledge of the felony.

2. Arbery approached the McMichael's on the road and immediately attacked McMichael senior.

If 1 is not true, it's the bare minimum of involuntary manslaughter.

If 1 and 2 cannot be proven, it is voluntary manslaughter.

If both can be proven, they will be acquitted.

Remember these?

I remember them.

It must suck TERRIBLY to have to put up with someone like me. I understand why you posted that one long drunken rant that one night - I've ruined you ability to troll every thread and shit up the place with your ignorance, lies, and narcissism. I don't intend to it's just that you post so much bullshit all the time that when I'm covering the facts, you are inevitably going to be shown to be a liar and a fool. I recommend you clean up your act a bit.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg

when cornered and unmasked, they often derail topics to personally attack and attempt to discredit their opponent with lies, slander, memes, etc. their 'final stand' is often to accuse the non-gaslighter of being the actual gaslighter

...also by misrepresenting previous debates and creating false narratives about topic as well as opponent. they will also attempt to attribute negative emotional states to their opponents (likely projecting) in order to further discredit them.

the other goal of the gaslighter is to exhaust and drain their opponents of energy until they give up, thus giving them further ground in creating an illusory truth effect (with fewer posts contradicting the gaslighter)

they also treat logical fallacies not as something to avoid, but rather a bag of tricks to assist them in meeting their end goal

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
...also by misrepresenting previous debates and creating false narratives about topic as well as opponent. they will also attempt to attribute negative emotional states to their opponents (likely projecting) in order to further discredit them.

the other goal of the gaslighter is to exhaust and drain their opponents of energy until they give up, thus giving them further ground in creating an illusory truth effect (with fewer posts contradicting the gaslighter)

they also treat logical fallacies not as something to avoid, but rather a bag of tricks to assist them in meeting their end goal

Wow, dude, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. But, yes, I'm glad you're outlining your tactics so thoroughly.

I know your KMC e-cred is super important to you (it's the NPD) so, tell me, did the blood drain from your face when you saw the posts from the past where you clearly went off the deep-end with gaslighting but failed?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
...also by misrepresenting previous debates and creating false narratives about topic as well as opponent. they will also attempt to attribute negative emotional states to their opponents (likely projecting) in order to further discredit them.

the other goal of the gaslighter is to exhaust and drain their opponents of energy until they give up, thus giving them further ground in creating an illusory truth effect (with fewer posts contradicting the gaslighter)

they also treat logical fallacies not as something to avoid, but rather a bag of tricks to assist them in meeting their end goal

You are pathetic.

Originally posted by BackFire
Someone should define gaslighting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bowSTNGyD_M

lol at new sock accounts voting for me. I'm taking screencaps of the "list by joined date" memberlist btw. 😉

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Member list sorted by newest (note the clock timestamp on top)

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
lol at new sock accounts voting for me. I'm taking screencaps of the "list by joined date" memberlist btw. 😉

How sad can you(PVS) be?

certainty not sad enough to create 5 sock accounts just to warp a poll on a dead movie forum [Illusory truth effect] 😉