Aang Gang vs early Shippuden Naruto

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
It’s literally saying Sakura’s fist does equivalent damage to a pickaxe strike.

She destroyed a forest with one punch.

Do you not see the issue with the comparison? Do you think a single pickaxe strike typically destroys entire plots of land?

Nope, it's actually not saying that at all. "Literally" or otherwise.

Ironically, what you've made here is an actual strawman.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Literally no strength feats in Avatar support the idea that the amount of material one can bend is equivalent to their physical lifting ability.

Do you see my point?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Something that can destroy rocks and mud > Rocks and Mud

Yes?

and

Originally posted by Henry_Pym

Literally no point in arguing with someone who can’t agree x + 1 > x

are what you need to defend.

Fair warning: you can't.

edited out point for clarity

What is your argument?

My argument for what, specifically?

Okay, my argument is if Naruto can tank Sakura’s punches (and Kakashi’s water dragon) he is more durable than any individual member of the Aang gang?

Then Toph’s earth bending was brought up.

What is the argument with it in relation to the battle at hand.

My argument is that Sakura never hit him for real like she was hitting an enemy. It was a gag, which is why it happened so much and never in combat and he was just fine after she'd hit him,, but could get injured from lesser stuff. Otherwise its canon that Himawari ko'd the most powerful Hokage in history for an entire day and wasn't even at Genin level when she unlocked her Byakugan.

Originally posted by KingD19
My argument is that Sakura never hit him for real like she was hitting an enemy. It was a gag, which is why it happened so much and never in combat and he was just fine after she'd hit him,, but could get injured from lesser stuff. Otherwise its canon that Himawari ko'd the most powerful Hokage in history for an entire day and wasn't even at Genin level when she unlocked her Byakugan.

I think literally every named user who isn’t a child has a one finger poke kill in the main story. The fact she hit a vital area on Naruto and he didn’t die is a feat for Naruto. I mean keep in mind Rock Lee from the Chunin exam had NEVER beat Neji because Neji only needed one blow to decisively win.

If Himawari hit Sasuke unaware she probably would kill him. If you don’t block gentle fist attacks and you don’t have the 9 tails healing factor no one has survived.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
it is canon, the Byakugan is literally called the deadliest technique in the village.

I think literally every named user who isn’t a child has a one finger poke kill in the main story. The fact she hit a vital area on Naruto and he didn’t die is a feat for Naruto. I mean keep in mind Rock Lee from the Chunin exam had NEVER beat Neji because Neji only needed one blow to decisively win.

If Himawari hit Sasuke unaware she probably would kill him. If you don’t block gentle fist attacks and you don’t have the 9 tails healing factor no one has survived.

That doesn't mean it is.

Izanagi
Mangekyo Sharingan
Killin
Twin Snakes Mutual Death Technique

There's plenty that are far more deadly, the Byakugan just lets you see Chakra Points directly and all the other things that come with it.

There's no evidence she hit a vital point, just that she used a "Gentle Fist" technique that according to Hinata, "completely drained" Naruto. Because she wasn't even aiming for Naruto, she was aiming for Boruto, so that means she didn't hit the target she was shooting for. It honestly looked like she just punched him in the d*ck. But, he was completely prepared as he could see she had activated her powers when she walks into the hallway. He even goes "Byakugan?!" before rushing over and taking the punch for Boruto.

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It's obvious the entire scene was a gag, as Himawari even has a spooky demon face when Boruto is hiding from her in the attic. Just like everytime Sakura hit him, it was a gag. You not liking the fact doesn't make it less of a fact.

As for Lee, he couldn't win against Neji because he was the only Leaf ninja who couldn't actually use his chakra outside of the gates, so he had literally 0% defense against a Byakugan user.

MY argument is that Toph's Earthbending has more destructive power then Sakura's punches 🙂

What durability has any Avatar member ever shown?

Zuko's war ship exploded with him in it, and he was relatively fine

Originally posted by KingD19
There's no evidence she hit a vital point

she used a "Gentle Fist" technique that according to Hinata, "completely drained" Naruto.

Separated to show you answered your own question.

Your argument is literally like saying a bullet to the brain is less deadly if you didn’t mean to hit someone.

Literally none of the other techniques you named kill as fast as Gentle Fist, hell most people don’t survive a single blow as we have seen single touches kill jounin. It is literally a one shot kill if you land the blow. This is explained multiple times by Neji attempting to hit Hinata’s brain and heart.

This isn’t a low feat for Naruto, if anything it is pretty crazy that he survives what most cannot. Gentle Fist is the most hax ability in Naruto because unless you have some sort of plot armor, it bypasses physical defense and shuts off your life energy.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Zuko's war ship exploded with him in it, and he was relatively fine

He is capable of bending iron with his fists and leaping a bit above his own height. He is generally physically like American comic book “peak human” imho.

(Obviously using bending he can do other things outside that range like using his fire to propel himself or using heat to melt steel to move with his hands. )

He only struggled in the north pole with aang because there was a blizzard and he literally got done swimming under the entire city and dueling katara at night. I don't believe the ship did any more than some scratches and bruises

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He only struggled in the north pole with aang because there was a blizzard and he literally got done swimming under the entire city and dueling katara at night. I don't believe the ship did any more than some scratches and bruises

Because I don’t, and his breathing was his protection against the cold so it’s not really 1 to 1 comparable to normal human durability.

I mean we see him completely tank the cooler in the prison when we know he is at his physical peak.

By tanking do you mean being able to unscrew a few bolts? I'm not saying it was his physical peak, but he beat katara at dawn and the gaang didn't find him till the moon was high in the sky. Struggling to carry aang might have just been because he was sleepy