Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
ally of minority is loaded phrase, it indicates minorities are less than human and need allies.
also indicates that a non-minority is supporting a specific cause only to appear to care about justice, in the case of minorites.
it's a very short walk from that to "race traitor"
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
also indicates that a non-minority is supporting a specific cause only to appear to care about justice, in the case of minorites.it's a very short walk from that to "race traitor"
People absolutely do this, though.
CNN and Fox News are selling a product. We have examples of people on both "sides" of the debate switching allegiance, to suit whoevers paying them.
That doesn't mean I believe all white males who support lgbtq feminism are that way. But the fact is, a white male has no real reason to support lgbtq feminism; unless they want to.
It doesn't affect their lives, and so support is a choice. An altruistic one.
Why is calling such a person an "ally" a loaded word?
Originally posted by cdtm
CNN and Fox News are selling a product. We have examples of people on both "sides" of the debate switching allegiance, to suit whoevers paying them.
agreed. i've been saying since long before this forum existed that the media is not interested in taking one side over the other, regardless of any bias. they play/pretend both sides. always. (OAN state propaganda being the exception)
Originally posted by cdtm
That doesn't mean I believe all white males who support lgbtq feminism are that way. But the fact is, a white male has no real reason to support lgbtq feminism; unless they want to.It doesn't affect their lives, and so support is a choice. An altruistic one.
Why is calling such a person an "ally" a loaded word?
it implies that the motive is to be an ally to minorities regardless of context, as opposed to simple justice as the motivation. nobody is suggesting that this was your intent (i'm sure it's the opposite in fact)
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
So what you are saying in this context is nations like the uk and us oppress minorities? And equality is a myth? I don't necessarily disagree.
Oh, I completely believe oppression happens. I've seen too many people behave in vile ways to not believe it. And various "leaks" in events like the Puerto Rico scandal lead me to believe such people exist in top echelons of power (Though that had nothing to do with racial oppression, the people had a similar horrible mind set)
The trouble with racial/cultural identity politics, is it's all a horse and pony show that doesn't really touch on the source of problems. I mean, you look at Fox, and every minority is suspect. You look at CNN, and they never criticise anybody except people who watch Fox.
And then there's the stuff no one cares about, like one single tribe from India dominating middle management over Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, and various other very qualified people from outside that tribe from India. And the bosses of those come from another well heeled tribe.
That's nepotism as bad as any white oppression anybody, but they get away with it because an Indian is an Indian, amiright?
Far as I can see, there's a lot of anger and a lot of finger pointing publicly, and a lot of shade on back stabbing behind the scenes that doesn't fit into these popular narratives that are good for TV ratings or online clicks.
It's frustrating when you see things that really do outrage you, yet have no faith in the messengers who are telling you what you should be outraged about, because you know they have an agenda that has nothing to do with justice.