FBI, no evidence of Antifa involvement in unrest
Stupid, gullible, hate filled, fascist enabling Trumpers.
How do you like them apples?
FBI, no evidence of Antifa involvement in unrest
Stupid, gullible, hate filled, fascist enabling Trumpers.
How do you like them apples?
everyone with a cool head, capable of objective thinking, and doing minimal research spotted it from the start, whirly. I was accused of "shilling for antifa", "confirmation bias", being "on the wrong side of the law, etc.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
explain this then:
https://twitter.com/antifaintl?lang=endivisive twitter troll accounts are easy to make. ask putin 👆
as far as the link you provided
https://archive.fo/https://twitter.com/ANTIFA_US/status/1267184839339290625appears to have just been made today
why should i believe it was genuine? convince me, black lion
Originally posted by Bashar TegThe thing is, we have been o er this million times, you, rob, me and many others have given multiple examples of Police, Alt-right incels and non incels wtc. Killing people, Antifa... not so much, because it simply doesn't happen. Apples and oranges, except the apples are rotten.
everyone with a cool head, capable of objective thinking, and doing minimal research spotted it from the start, whirly. I was accused of "shilling for antifa", "confirmation bias", being "on the wrong side of the law, etc.
do you think trumpers will even acknowledge that they were completely wrong about who was behind the agitation? i'm sure they won't try to opportunistically derail this topic, just to avoid the facts
oh btw, here is the actual thimble where their intellectual honesty is kept. as you can see, it's empty
Originally posted by Bashar TegI'm sure you are right, why would Trumpers try and derail this thread?) And no, they will never admit it 😂
do you think trumpers will even acknowledge that they were completely wrong about who was behind the agitation? i'm sure they won't try to opportunistically derail this topic, just to avoid the factsoh btw, here is the actual thimble where their intellectual honesty is kept. as you can see, it's empty
maybe now that white supremacists have been identified by the fbi as the very agitators which trumpers were (so passionately) seeking out, they will support white nationalists being federally labeled as a terrorist group.
(i would disagree of course, since fascism and antifascism are ideals protected under the 1st amendment)
Originally posted by Bashar TegRather than labelling groups, I hope they go after the identified individual white supremacists with the same but non lethal zeal the Police might take down an unarmed black man. 🙂
maybe now that white supremacists have been identified by the fbi as the very agitators which trumpers were (so passionately) seeking out, they will support white nationalists being federally labeled as a terrorist group.(i would disagree of course, since fascism and antifascism are ideals protected under the 1st amendment)
Re: FBI, no evidence of Antifa involvement in unrest
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://www.ajc.com/news/fbi-finds-evidence-antifa-involvement-national-unrest/qVI3U9wb8Q6u1QEvVsJ7AJ/Stupid, gullible, hate filled, fascist enabling Trumpers.
How do you like them apples?
Before you guys HI-5 each other anymore did you manage to read the supporting documents to the news story that linked? Because the story you linked from AJC didn't originate the sotry it was just a scooper that pulled the story from:
https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/
Which didn't even attempt to hide it's framing and click bait title:
The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation.
They didn't have evidence for 1 event lulz not the entire set of riots. I found this really neat older article the other day you should reread🙂
Understanding "Post-Trump Stress Disorder
While the polls were inaccurate, the false optimism of liberal voters was also a byproduct of the inherent biases of modern news. For a while, a generation of liberal-minded young adults fell into the habit of getting the news from watching the comedian Jon Stewart on The Daily Show. Now that cellphones have taken over as our peripheral brains, we consume our news from social media feeds that are by design programmed to present us with the news as we want it, not necessarily as it is. We’ve become digesters of a kind of syrupy, self-righteous pablum produced within online echo chambers and filter bubbles, continually narrowed with each click of a “like” button on social media and each time we defriend or block someone with opposing viewpoints. Human brains are already slaves to “confirmation bias” (in which we favor evidence that supports our intuitions and reject evidence that contradicts it) – but within the online universe, it’s more like confirmation bias on steroids. Which means that, in the end, we can’t trust the news because we’ve become voracious consumers of fake news, not actual news that aims to be objective or fair-balanced.
😉
Originally posted by snowdragonwe've moved on from that, no evidence was found Snow. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/06/03/twitter-suspends-account-copying-trumps-tweets-for-glorifying-violence/
Before you guys HI-5 each other anymore did you manage to read the supporting documents to the news story that linked? Because the story you linked from AJC didn't originate the sotry it was just a scooper that pulled the story from:https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/
Which didn't even attempt to hide it's framing and click bait title:
They didn't have evidence for 1 event lulz not the entire set of riots. I found this really neat older article the other day you should reread🙂
Understanding "Post-Trump Stress Disorder
😉
Originally posted by snowdragon
Before you guys HI-5 each other anymore did you manage to read the supporting documents to the news story that linked? Because the story you linked from AJC didn't originate the sotry it was just a scooper that pulled the story from:https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/
Which didn't even attempt to hide it's framing and click bait title:
They didn't have evidence for 1 event lulz not the entire set of riots. I found this really neat older article the other day you should reread🙂
Understanding "Post-Trump Stress Disorder
😉
Lol, get these facts outta here.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
we've moved on from that, no evidence was found Snow. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/06/03/twitter-suspends-account-copying-trumps-tweets-for-glorifying-violence/
You are correct no evidence was found on May 31st in washington dc during the layeffete protest, that's all that was confirmed. The rest of the information you insinuated was not supported by facts just bro-science ass slapping 😱
You know the only time I read Trump tweets is on this forum.
Anyway the real news that you attempted to frame an incorrect narrative from is this:
The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation.
Also I'm sure white supremists or other ass hat groups are also taking advantage of this chaos, I'm just not in denial over the ass hattery.
Re: Re: FBI, no evidence of Antifa involvement in unrest
Originally posted by snowdragon
Before you guys HI-5 each other anymore did you manage to read the supporting documents to the news story that linked? Because the story you linked from AJC didn't originate the sotry it was just a scooper that pulled the story from:https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi/
Which didn't even attempt to hide it's framing and click bait title:[/URL]
where is the part which proves the article wrong?
The report, marked “For official use only” (FOUO), was provided to The Nation by an FBI official on condition of anonymity. The report is titled, “Civil Unrest in Washington AOR [Area of Responsibility] Following Death of George Floyd.” The report’s reference to “CHS” suggests that the Bureau possesses secret informants participating in the protests.Asked about the report and why they’ve been unable to substantiate antifa involvement in the violence, the FBI’s Washington Field Office declined to comment.
also, the burden of proof is on the one who claims that antifa were involved. "proof" does not include single day twitter accounts, "but trump said it", and "but the agitators were wearing black, so they must be antifa"
where's the proof?
Originally posted by snowdragonO.K. fair and balanced so, no evidence on Antifa as far as we know from released info. So, why does Trump want to break the US law and label them based on these riots?
You are correct no evidence was found on May 31st in washington dc during the layeffete protest, that's all that was confirmed. The rest of the information you insinuated was not supported by facts just bro-science ass slapping 😱You know the only time I read Trump tweets is on this forum.
Anyway the real news that you attempted to frame an incorrect narrative from is this:
Also I'm sure white supremists or other ass hat groups are also taking advantage of this chaos, I'm just not in denial over the ass hattery.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
O.K. fair and balanced so, no evidence on Antifa as far as we know from released info. So, why does Trump want to break the US law and label them based on these riots?
He doesn't have the authority to actually label Antifa terrorists as an organization, they can just go after acts that can be labeled domestic acts of terror just like when white nationalists or whoever do said acts. Twitter is just his mental masterbation that he then spews forth, it's messy and I don't want that shit getting in my eye.
where is the part which proves the article wrong?
The title of the thread framed a narrative that alluded to Antifa having no part in ANY riots, so I read the article, then I read the supporting article that the threads narrative was framed from and pulled out the appropriate information regarding Antifa's involvement which specifically said on May 31st in regards to Layfette Plaza, no other location/time was mentioned, which means they (Antifa) could be a part of any other protest or riot no mentioned in said intelligence document.
Originally posted by snowdragonDon't disagree, but isn't it awful he behaves in this way.
He doesn't have the authority to actually label Antifa terrorists as an organization, they can just go after acts that can be labeled domestic acts of terror just like when white nationalists or whoever do said acts. Twitter is just his mental masterbation that he then spews forth, it's messy and I don't want that shit getting in my eye.The title of the thread framed a narrative that alluded to Antifa having no part in ANY riots, so I read the article, then I read the supporting article that the threads narrative was framed from and pulled out the appropriate information regarding Antifa's involvement which specifically said on May 31st in regards to Layfette Plaza, no other location/time was mentioned, which means they (Antifa) could be a part of any other protest or riot no mentioned in said intelligence document.
Snow, it's a leaked account from an anon fbi agent concerning a completely relevant and recent protest-turned-riot. you seem to be suggesting that we need leaked accounts from every riot in order to prove that antifa wasn't involved in agitating. not only are you shifting burden of proof, but you're doing it such a way in which, as per your implied requirements, the misapplied burden of proof is downright impossible to accomplish.
also i agree about the stupidity of trying to federally ban an ideal. so much for far-right ranting over the "thought police" coming to get us all. turns out, they might be, and their hero trump is trying to send them
Originally posted by Bashar TegYou're quite right.
Snow, it's a leaked account from an anon fbi agent concerning a completely relevant and recent protest-turned-riot. you seem to be suggesting that we need leaked accounts from every riot in order to prove that antifa wasn't involved in agitating. not only are you shifting burden of proof, but you're doing it such a way in which, as per your implied requirements, the misapplied burden of proof is downright impossible to accomplish.also i agree about the stupidity of trying to federally ban an ideal. so much for far-right ranting over the "thought police" coming to get us all